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It’s pretty complex. Have to use a worksheet and assign points to see if a brace design is a stock, or if it’s used as a stock.

https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-...d-stabilizing-braces

Ammoland article.

https://www.ammoland.com/2021/...-pistol-brace-rules/
 
Posts: 3416 | Location: South FL | Registered: February 09, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I thought they literally just said pistol braces were ok and they were going to reevaluate in Dec. I guess "reevaluate" just means "figure out a different way to turn you into an overnight felon".


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Read the whole thing. Pretty much everything except the original cuff designs on a fixed short mount are going to result in the pistol being deemed a short barrel rifle under NFA. Also, all previously approved braces are no longer approved and must be re-approved under the new rules. My MPX-K and Rattler came with approval letters stating the factory installed braces (telescoping PDW style with rubber cuff) were legal. Now they might not be.

Everyone who bought a braced pistol with an SBA3 or KAK Blade on it in the past few years is going to have to remove it. Even the Tailhook which was previously approved is penalized for being able to fold up into a hollow stock shape when it's not opened up to counterbalance under your forearm.

A whole lot of people who just bought a gun at the store who are not experts on firearm and brace design are going to become federal felons in waiting if they aren't aware of this rule and don't complete the worksheet and make whatever modifications are necessary. And the worksheet leaves a lot open to interpretation.

They really need a grandfather clause on this. Hopefully public comment and objection will lead to something less strict.
 
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The Ammoland article spells out some things that aren’t made clear from the ATF “official-speak” in reference to barrel length, overall length, overall weight, red dot sight usage, and more. This is a foray into confiscation and creating instant felons.




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This is entirely about confiscation, criminalizing owners, and economically damaging the gun industry. Leave comments on the proposal if you can, contact your congress critter. Sad thing this is probably the first real attempt of many on our 2A rights by this administration.





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Open for comments:

https://www.federalregister.go...-braces#open-comment


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I am totally against any such regulation. There should be no tax stamps for SBRs, AOWs, or any distinction between pistols and rifles in the law.

But, you have to admit that most of the braces are actually stocks.

It shouldn't matter whether it is a stock in the first place.




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Confusion, that’s how it’s done.
 
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The problem I have is if this is allowed and I wanted to get a tax stamp for my pistol I would be denied. Seems the FBI feels the marijuana plant I got caught growing back in 1978 while at college proves that I am a danger to society.


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Posts: 4441 | Location: Greenville, SC | Registered: January 30, 2017Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Speaking of stamps, that bs back in December about free registrations never happened, right?

Someone is telling me they registered a 16” rifle and two stripped lowers as sbrs for free back in December and I’m like, “You’re full of shit.”



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Where are we at with this, right now?

Injunctions? Enforcing?

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"The designer of the gun had clearly not been instructed to beat about the bush. 'Make it evil,' he'd been told. 'Make it totally clear that this gun has a right end and a wrong end. Make it totally clear to anyone standing at the wrong end that things are going badly for them. If that means sticking all sort of spikes and prongs and blackened bits all over it then so be it. This is not a gun for hanging over the fireplace or sticking in the umbrella stand, it is a gun for going out and making people miserable with." -Douglas Adams

“It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free."
-Niccolo Machiavelli

The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken
 
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