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What are the best options for traveling to Wa. regarding self defense. My state does not have an agreement for ccw. Thanks.



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Washington doesn't allow Constitutional Carry, nor do they allow carrying a loaded gun in any vehicle of any sort without a permit.

They do allow open carry with limitations however.

I was under the impression that Washington State either had reciprocity with or recognized virtually all other states' permits. Am I wrong?

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According to handgunlaw.us, WA honors permits from the following states:

Idaho, Kansas, Louisiana, Michigan, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Dakota & Utah

Detailed info here --> https://handgunlaw.us/states/washington.pdf


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As I said, not in a state that Wa. has reciprocity with. So need info on options. I do not need to carry necessarily, but having something accessible while there would be nice.



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Best advice would be to get a non-resident UTAH permit.


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might an idea. How'w does one get that is not a Ut. resident?



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Try this link.

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So I am told that Wa. will issue a non-resident CCW permit. Any knowledge or info on this? I understand the bit about having a ccw in the car. Which is dumb, but I understand the ruling.



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So I am told that Wa. will issue a non-resident CCW permit. Any knowledge or info on this? I understand the bit about having a ccw in the car. Which is dumb, but I understand the ruling.


Looks like you were told right.

https://www.dol.wa.gov/busines...ms/faconcealreq.html

Where to apply:

If you live:
In an unincorporated area of a county in Washington
Apply at Your county sheriff's office

In an incorporated city or town in Washington

Apply at Your city/town police department or your county sheriff’s office

Outside of Washington (not a Washington state resident) Apply at
Any local law enforcement agency (police department or sheriff’s office) in Washington State
 
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WA. CPL (Concealed Pistol License) itself has no distinction as resident/non-resident, they have just a single CPL.

Yes, they will issue to someone who is not a state resident, however for a non-resident instead of the “Shall issue within 30 days” the clock goes to 60 days for someone who has not resided in WA for the previous 90 consecutive days.

You will need to apply in person, understand many agencies have gone to appts with limited hours and a backlog of appts.

Some agencies will mail it out once done, others will expect you to pick up in person. While the state has pre-emptive gun laws, many agencies still are guided by internal and administrative “beliefs” that can impact on how easily one can apply and how fast they go through the process after receiving an application.

My first WA CPL (decades ago) was done by Kirkland PD (Seattle area) and the elected officials in Kirkland at the time did not believe in people’s rights. Therefore the Police Chief was told by the mayor, we have to do this but wait until the last day to mail it out.

In contrast to that, when I moved to Snohomish County, I applied on a Thursday, and it was in my mailbox on Wednesday the following week.

Of course timing has to do with workload and how fast the record checks, etc get done but some jurisdictions will hold it as long as they legally can just for spite.


So a couple questions - when are you coming to WA? Where in WA will you be and how long will you be here? Will it be just a single trip or will there be a series of trips?


As another posted, yes OC is legal with a few restrictions. How well it is accepted/tolerated varies greatly depending on where you are. If you are anywhere near Seattle expect to get attention and expect the police to respond. They will chat with you and most likely send you on your way but it may be an inconvenience and some individual cops may take exception and be more “difficult” then others.


On the bright side, no training requirement for CPL and the cost isn’t too excessive. Not sure how long it will stay that way…


RCW 9.41 covers pretty much all you need to know in the gun realm in this area.

https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.41






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Posts: 9924 | Location: Western WA state for just a few more years... | Registered: February 17, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I had been meaning to drive across the bridge and apply for a nonresident permit, but scrapped that when I got a Utah nonresident permit. Besides Washington, it covers me in a few other states I may have reason to travel to that Oregon doesn't have agreements with. Oregon doesn't honor anybody else's permit, so very few states honor ours (I've heard that some jurisdictions won't even recognize our driver's licenses because we pass them out like candy to anybody who "needs" ID, but I digress).

The club I belong to offers a Utah permit class a few times a year. I guess there's that much demand for it, probably for the same reason I did it. It's like a 3 or 4 hour classroom session, and they do the application, photographs and fingerprints right there. Mail it all off and a few weeks later you get your permit in the mail. Check around, there might be something similar available in your neck of the woods. If not, I imagine you can do it by mail.
 
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If you don't want to go the permit route, you can open carry, depending on where exactly you are going or carrying. The details matter quite a bit, but it's a fine option. No loaded guns in cars.

The Utah permit is a pretty good option if you can swing it.


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I agree with the UT permit plan. If possible, locate a UT instructor, take the class and get the permit. I'm a UT instructor in VA, but I suspect too far away from you to do any good. The UT permit is only $63.25 for the first 5 years and only $25 for every 5 years after that.
 
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