Shipping hicap mags to restricted states (California)

April 03, 2024, 06:04 PM

les45

I've been selling on gun forums for years but I just ran into an issue that I've never encountered before. I'm currently selling some 17 rd mags and a prospective buyer from California asked if I would ship to CA. I've researched this issue online and there are no definitive rules that I can find that address shipping to CA by individuals. I've put the burden back on the buyer by asking if he is legally able to own the mags but the only exception I can see in CA rules is for military and law enforcement and even those have to be shipped to the agencies and not to individuals. Anyone have any experience with this issue?

April 03, 2024, 11:10 PM

old rugged cross

No Buenos would be my answer.

April 04, 2024, 08:57 AM

Ryanp225

In Colorado I've been told it's only retailers who have been restricted. Private party is good to go and out of state shipping seems to be ok based on how available they seem to be.
I have no idea on CA since they are their own animal.
Depends on who you're dealing with and how you feel about complying with tyrannical rules. If it's a guy you know then I'd do him a solid and ship. It's not like the packages get inspected or anything.

April 04, 2024, 11:16 AM

drill sgt

Be careful in this day and age.. Especially in the gun unfriendly states.. Unless you have actually known this person for a period of time they might be some sort of undercover government agent that might be out looking to catch people.... ...................... drill sgt.

April 04, 2024, 11:34 AM

tsmccull

quote:
Originally posted by drill sgt:
Be careful in this day and age.. Especially in the gun unfriendly states.. Unless you have actually known this person for a period of time they might be some sort of undercover government agent that might be out looking to catch people.... ...................... drill sgt.

Wouldn’t worry about it. It’s not like they’re going to extradite OP from South Carolina to California to stand trial for shipping a couple of mags!

April 04, 2024, 01:59 PM

les45

Looks like it's a moot point in this case. When I asked the guy if he could legally own the mags he never responded. Unless he proved he was an LE or military I wouldn't have shipped them anyway. Of course this does pose a problem for sellers as there are at least 13 other states with restrictions on 17 rd mags. I guess I'll have to bounce any potential buyers against that list now.

April 15, 2024, 09:16 AM

220-9er

Why risk it?

April 15, 2024, 09:20 AM

Ryanp225

quote:
Originally posted by 220-9er:
Why risk it?

Why live in fear? Why risk standing up for what should be right?

April 23, 2024, 09:21 AM

Kskelton

quote:
Originally posted by Ryanp225:
quote:
Originally posted by 220-9er:
Why risk it?

Why live in fear? Why risk standing up for what should be right?

The same reason I pay my taxes... then some more taxes..... then some more taxes.... Because the alternative to not following the rules sucks

I'm not sure anything would ever happen, but it's not worth the headache or potential headache for me. I'd suggest moving out of the communist states, but then they just end up here like all the other asylum seekers from California.

May 08, 2024, 02:59 PM

Voshterkoff

There are some large companies that still ship full magazines to my state, though I suspect incompetence over ideological.

May 09, 2024, 10:35 AM

smschulz

quote:
I've researched this issue online and there are no definitive rules that I can find that address shipping to CA by individuals.

So there's a chance.

May 30, 2024, 08:50 AM

tsmccull

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Originally posted by smschulz:
quote:
I've researched this issue online and there are no definitive rules that I can find that address shipping to CA by individuals.

So there's a chance.

Legalese on your website:

“Ownership of the product passes to buyer upon delivery to shipping agent. It is customer’s responsibility to ensure he can legally receive and own the product. All sales are final.”

Or words to that effect.

June 21, 2024, 08:32 AM

thumperfbc

quote:
Originally posted by les45:
I've been selling on gun forums for years but I just ran into an issue that I've never encountered before. I'm currently selling some 17 rd mags and a prospective buyer from California asked if I would ship to CA. I've researched this issue online and there are no definitive rules that I can find that address shipping to CA by individuals. I've put the burden back on the buyer by asking if he is legally able to own the mags but the only exception I can see in CA rules is for military and law enforcement and even those have to be shipped to the agencies and not to individuals. Anyone have any experience with this issue?

Yes, there are absolutely exceptions to the standard cap mag ban depending on the person... That being said, if I was out of state I'd probably just give a blanket "no"... at least as a private seller.

October 16, 2024, 08:48 AM

Nick42

Didn't Barrett just stop selling into California, even to law enforcement organizations?

If you never see yourself traveling to or through California, ever, you may be OK. But first, I suggest you make "reasonable effort" to ensure you are not violating any laws and are not participating in others breaking laws, and document it. Then again, this Obama/Biden administration, including the Merrick Garland DOJ, would still likely see this as some kind of interstate conspiracy.

What do lawyers charge these days? Are you a registered LLC to shield your personal assetts?

For any small profit you might receive, is the juice worth the squeeze?