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I just put 300 CCI small pistol magnum primers into a variety of cases. Segregated by lots of 50. I did clean the pockets.

These primers were a few years old.

They were tight fits in some of the cases, almost tighter than my Lee Auto Prime II could handle.

I have used CCI for a long time, but don't remember this problem. Any thoughts? Just some tighter pockets?




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I have found that S&B brass has tight primer pockets.
With brass that has been reloaded too many times the primer pockets are loose.

PC
 
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I ran into that with small rifle last year.
Brass was all mil same year and thoroughly worked.
The cci were several years [like 10] old .
New brick.
The next K I loaded was just perfect.
That whole brick that kept giving problems also gave problems in the dillon primer tube with dragging and hanging ups.
To be honest I have also had it happen with Winchester ones on 06 loadings.
upon inspection of these I think it is dull dies that punch the primer cups and with dull tools heads it rags the edges of the cups.
 
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Originally posted by PCWyoming:
I have found that S&B brass has tight primer pockets.

PC

The very first thing I thought as well...



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Didn't I see somewhere that Dillon did not recommend using CCI primers on their machines?

Wonder why?

I load CCI and Wolf for rifle and the Wolf are the tougher to seat of the two.



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Didn't I see somewhere that Dillon did not recommend using CCI primers on their machines?

Wonder why?

I load CCI and Wolf for rifle and the Wolf are the tougher to seat of the two.



RMD


I thought that was for federals and only ten in tube at a time.
 
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Originally posted by 45 Cal:

I thought that was for federals and only ten in tube at a time.


That makes sense as Federal primers have the reputation of being sensitive. I have seen some suggestion that CCIs are not preferred, but I don't see anything definitive on that.




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I hope it isn't Federal. I always loaded a full tray in the primer system.

RMD




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I do the same,when that was all I had .
I have a bunch in backstock now and will not use as long as I have cci's
The federal are a royal pain in the ass to get into the flip tray for the 550 Dillon.
They also take up way too much room in the ammo cans I stow my backstock in
 
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No problems with current manuf. CCI 500's in 9mm with a variety of commercial brass. That said, I routinely pitch S&B brass for priming problems with both Winchester Small Pistol, Federal and CCI on my Dillon 550b. Rod


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Originally posted by rduckwor:
Didn't I see somewhere that Dillon did not recommend using CCI primers on their machines?

Wonder why?

I load CCI and Wolf for rifle and the Wolf are the tougher to seat of the two.

They tend to be out of round! Dillon told me that when I had a problem loading them in the tube on my RF100. They tend to warp the tube, and get stuck in it. I switched to Fiochi and the problem went away. Cheaper as well.



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Back in the 1980s or 1990s CCI apparently ran a batch of primers that were slightly oversize and I could not get them to seat in my cases. I tried Winchester primers but they had stopped making "magnum" ones and didn't light my H110 loads well, so started using Federal. I've never gone back.

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It's not your primers. It's your brass.

Make sure you don't have any crimped military brass. Certain brands of brass have tighter primer pockets.
 
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My Dillon 550B came with instructions that advised against using CCI primers. Apparently because of problems with inconsistent dimensions.

I have had problem with CCI primers being tight going back to the early 1970s... though I can't say I have a lot of experience with them because I switched brands when I first encountered the size problems...

Sure wish my all time fav primers were still available (ALCAN)... but I won't hold my breath on their coming back.

FWIW

Chuck


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