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I bought a Savage 10 Ashbury precision rifle in 6.5 Creedmoor. It has a 1-8 twist barrel.

I would like to work up some loads.
Any suggestions for starters?
 
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H4350 at 43Gr for either a 140 Gr Hornady AMAX or the Hornady ELD-M is my load for an RPR. Hornady brass and CCI or Wolf primers - 2750-2760 fps depending upon the bullet.

You should run a OCW from about 41.7 to 43.2 or so and work up for your rifle. You're probably whizzing in the wind until you break the barrel in. So shoot it and then work up.

Good Luck,


RMD

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I have had my best luck with H4350 also, a little north of 42 grains
 
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H4350 at 43Gr for either a 140 Gr Hornady AMAX or the Hornady ELD-M is my load for an RPR. Hornady brass and CCI or Wolf primers - 2750-2760 fps depending upon the bullet.

You should run a OCW from about 41.7 to 43.2 or so and work up for your rifle. You're probably whizzing in the wind until you break the barrel in. So shoot it and then work up.

Good Luck,


RMD


Whats your break in procedure?
 
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Whats your break in procedure?


Shoot... Shoot some more.....

Patch at 20, then 50, then 100..... then only when accuracy falls off.

Andrew


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Barrel break in sounds like it needs a new thread in the rifle section.
Interesting subject with I'm sure, lots of opinions.
 
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Break in varies depending upon whom you ask. Five, clean, ten clean twenty five clean, shoot the crap out of it. As said above, do not over clean. You'll likely notice a velocity increase within the first 100-150 rounds. Then work up your load.

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I touched on this in your other thread before I saw this one. Now that I see you load, try IMR Enduron 4451. It is becoming my go-to powder for many loads. The copper reducing is not just a gimmick. I've shot all day, come home to clean, and can't get a blue patch. The stuff really works.

Funny you should ask this. An hour ago I just bought a Hodgon 2017 Annual Manual, and low and behold on page 30 is an article "Handloading the 6.5 Creedmoor." The two powders they recommend are H4350 and IMR4451. So there you go.

ETA: I just snapped a pic of the final page of the article. I'd recommend you purchase a copy of the mag if you don't already have one.



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Take a look here you will find a wealth of 6.5 Creedmoor information http://www.65creedmoor.com/index.php?board=6.0
 
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Bump for reference.




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I have had my best luck with H4350 also, a little north of 42 grains

H4350 does seem to be "the" powder for 6.5CM, although I've been hearing good stuff about IMR 4451 as well (just bought some of it to try out). My H4350 load uses less powder than most - 40.5gr - because the guy who made my barrel recommended it and he cuts his chambers a little on the snug side. But now that I've got a few hundred rounds through it I should go back and re-check it. I also just bought some new Lapua brass, which uses a small primer instead of the large primer the Hornady brass uses, so I need to re-work my load also. Seems like maybe a good opportunity to try out the 4451. I've used both the Hornady 140gr AMAX and the Berger 140gr Target VLD, both shot very well though I'd give a slight edge to the Berger. I want to try out the Berger 140gr Hybrid, but I can't find any of them.

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Been using 40 grains of Alliant RL17 with a 147 grain Hornady ELD Match (G1 BC of .697). About 25 thousandths off the lands. Digging it.



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Been using 40 grains of Alliant RL17 with a 147 grain Hornady ELD Match (G1 BC of .697). About 25 thousandths off the lands. Digging it.


I have a load with RL 17 as well. 42.5 Gr with Norma Golden Target 130 Gr bullet. I was trying to duplicate the Prime ammo loading, but discovered that loading these bullets LONGGGGG (2.9X) near the lands made for a fast and accurate load using the once-fired Prime brass and RL 17. Of course, they are now single loadings as they won't fit the mag, but no loss as I have a bobsled for the rifle.

Please be careful and work up your loads, my rifle is not your rifle.

RMD




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Be careful with R17. It's been my experience and others around me that R17 shoots best right up against max pressure and it's very temp sensitive. Work up a load in cooler temps, shoot in hotter temps....over pressure.
 
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Be careful with R17. It's been my experience and others around me that R17 shoots best right up against max pressure and it's very temp sensitive. Work up a load in cooler temps, shoot in hotter temps....over pressure.


I agree. This is my winter single loads for steel matches. Summer time? Right back to the good old H4350 and ELD-M's.

RMD




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Thank you gentlemen; that is the word around here too, that RL17 is very temperature sensitive. I am moving slow, 2550 FPS out of a 22" barrel, no pressure signs at 40 grains, plus bullet is out there a bit, with a COL of 2.865. Should be good to go in winter.

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Be careful with R17. It's been my experience and others around me that R17 shoots best right up against max pressure and it's very temp sensitive. Work up a load in cooler temps, shoot in hotter temps....over pressure.


I agree. This is my winter single loads for steel matches. Summer time? Right back to the good old H4350 and ELD-M's.

RMD



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