December 21, 2018, 06:59 PM
jsjac300 Blackout GSI trimmer tool head?
Has anyone tried the GSI trimmer tool head with the
Built in vacuum port.
I was thinking about making a tool head I could use
A decapping die and a sizing die after the trimmer.
Looks like this would be a lot less work on the milling
Machine.
Was wondering how well the vacuum port works.
Thanks in advance for the replies.
Jsjac
December 23, 2018, 10:17 AM
jsjacI have ordered one of these to try. When I get it and have a chance to try it I will do a quick review of it
Jsjac
December 23, 2018, 04:16 PM
jmorrisYep, I have one, it works. I don’t size after trimming though. Cases, if they are going to “grow” do so when sized, pointless to trim then change dimensions.
January 11, 2019, 05:52 PM
jsjacI have set up the new tool head. I like the built-in vacuum port.
I size after the trim die because the neck diameter is too small.
I will aneal the brass before I load the newly made 300 Blackout brass.
January 12, 2019, 09:02 AM
jmorrisIf it’s too small what does sizing it do?
Are you just running an expander through after trimming?
January 12, 2019, 09:05 AM
jmorrisIf your making brass from 223 the expander after will be your only hope as thickness will be all over the place with mixed brass.
Neck thickness data:
Factory Blackout brass
Gemtech (factory 300 BLK) - 0.011"
PNW Arms - 0.011"
RP - 0.010"
Converted brass
Good:
ADI - 0.012"
Aguila - 0.012"
A USA - 0.012"
FC - 0.013/0.014" [Note 1]
GFL - 0.012" (Fiocchi) Some GFL may have different thickness
HB - 0.013"
Hornady (223 headstamp) - 0.011"
Hornady (nickel 223) - 0.012"
IK03 - 0.012" [Note 4]
IMI - 0.012" [Note 4] Listed on both lists, but seems like more often good than bad.
IVI - 0.013"
IVI ('85) - 0.012" (runs great)
LC - 0.011"
LC (converted blank) - 0.012"
M193 - 0.011/0.012"
Norinco 223 - 0.010"
NOSLER - 0.012”
PERFECTA 223 rem. - 0.012"
PMC - modern "bronze" and "X-tac" are good, older PMC with small letters may have problems
PS - 0.011/0.012"
PSD - 0.011"
RA - 0.013"
RA ('69) - 0.012"
RP .223 - 0.011"
SSA - 0.012"
TAA - 0.013-0.014" [Note 4]
Tula - 0.0115"
TW 67 - 0.012”
TZZ - 0.012"
WCC - 0.010/0.011" (Some less common WCC headstamps run thicker, but the majority are good to go)
Winchester - 0.011"
WIN NT - 0.011"
WMA 15 - 0.011"
Thick neck wall, bad without neck turning:
AB 556 - .015" to .016"
ATI - 0.015" [Note 3]
CBC - 0.014/0.015"
CJ6 - 0.015"
CJ 8 - .014"
DNL - 0.016"
FNM - 0.016" [Note 3]
FRONTIER - 0.015"
GECO - 0.015/0.016"
Hot Shot - 0.014" [Note 3]
HRTRS ( Herters?) - 0.017"
ICC - Reported as bad
IK03 - 0.015" [Note 4]
IMI - 0.015" [Note 4]
IVI - 0.015"
KFA .223 REM - 0.015"-0.019"
L2A2 - Reported as bad
MKE13 - Anecdotally reported as troublesome
MPA - 0.015"
Norma - 0.015"
NPA - [Note 3]
PMC (old headstamp) - 0.015"
PMP - 0.015"
PPU - 0.014/0.015" [Note 3]
RAM 223 - .014"
RORG - 0.015"
RWS - 0.014-0.015"
S&B - 0.015/0.017"
SADU - 0.014/0.015”
TAA - 0.013-0.014" [Note 4]
SADU 5.56 - 0.014-0.015"
Wolf Brass .223 - 0.014"
http://www.300blktalk.com/foru...ic.php?f=141&t=88599January 12, 2019, 07:26 PM
BisleyblackhawkHey jmorris...thank you for this post
...good brass vs. bad brass for forming .300 BO...keeping it to the forefront!
January 13, 2019, 07:34 AM
jsjacThanks for the list.
I will check the cases that I formed this weekend.