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The Unmanned Writer
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But how dehell do I get powder into a 9mm case without it flowing off the side??

Here's the details:

Single stage loading
RCBS funnel (the green one)
Franklin tray (red)
Unique powder

The problem is the funnel is too deep to contact the rim of the cartridge when the cartridge is set in the tray. Because of this about 1/25 - 1/3 of the powder does not make it into the case.

Any ideas?







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A reloading block/tray that has shallower sections to keep the shorter case from setting too deep...RCBS makes one and IIRC so does Lyman...

http://www.rcbs.com/Products/C...e-Loading-Block.aspx


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A reloading block/tray that has shallower sections to keep the shorter case from setting too deep...RCBS makes one and IIRC so does Lyman...

http://www.rcbs.com/Products/C...e-Loading-Block.aspx


Thanks!!!

I actually have one but don't like for .45, .44 and rifles because of how shallow it is for those rounds. Lol

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Try the tray from commercial ammo packaging.

RMD




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Try the tray from commercial ammo packaging.

RMD


I use trays from commercial packing. They work, they're usually free at the range. Just check the trash, be green, recycle!


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RCBS makes a powder funnel/measuring tray combo. It has a flare on the funnel that rests on the lip of the cartridge case.


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Yup, that's the one noted in the second post. Wink







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I'm still trying to figure out why you're using a funnel to put powder in handgun cases...




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I'm still trying to figure out why you're using a funnel to put powder in handgun cases...


Because it's too hard to pour directly from the scale pan. Smile



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I'm still trying to figure out why you're using a funnel to put powder in handgun cases...


Because it's too hard to pour directly from the scale pan. Smile


Scale pan?! This is why they invented powder throwers.




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I found that I MUCH preferred to charge the case, inspect the charge height, and IMMEDIATELY seat a bullet on the case.
I HATE loading trays. I REALLY hated loading trays when I bumped it and several cases toppled over.
I read about folks missing over- and under-charged cases in loading trays, so have no idea how it can be safer.
If you inspect each case, you can't miss a case.
I find I can't bring a case to the press without remembering to inspect the case.
Much better to immediately inspect and seat the bullet--at least for me.
Before my progressive, where I always had the measure mounted on the press (even before case-activated measures were even though about), I never had any issue eliminating the tray and just charging and seating in basically one step.
Otherwise, hold the case to the measure drop tube, charge the case, and place it in the tray.
Or, get a measure designed for charging directly into the case in a tray and NOT need a funnel.
 
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I'm still trying to figure out why you're using a funnel to put powder in handgun cases...


Because it's too hard to pour directly from the scale pan. Smile


Scale pan?! This is why they invented powder throwers.


Yea, it was sarcasm in agreement with you. I guess I should have used two emoticons, like this. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



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Originally posted by exx1976:
I'm still trying to figure out why you're using a funnel to put powder in handgun cases...


Because it's too hard to pour directly from the scale pan. Smile


Scale pan?! This is why they invented powder throwers.


Yea, it was sarcasm in agreement with you. I guess I should have used two emoticons, like this. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Ahh, gotcha. Yesterday was a long day. Big Grin




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^^ No problem, I've had those days too.

Pistol reloading and powder throws go together [gump] like peas and carrots.[/gump] Indeed, the whole idea of a progressive press is mainly a pistol tool, IMO.

If you're reloading pistol cartridges on a single stage without a throw, you might as well get one of these. It would be just about the same.




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I'm still trying to figure out why you're using a funnel to put powder in handgun cases...


Trying to get some exact powder loads vice the minute variances seen on powder throws .

I figured it out by using both funnel and large powder throw adapter (plastic tube on bottom). Tedious but acceptable for loading up 50 rds







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What's your process line look like?

Do you have a powder charge thrower? Trickler?

Truth is, unless you are near max charge or shooting top level Bullseye, your wasting your time trying to achieve exact charge nirvana in pistol rounds.

Precision rifle, benchrest - yes. Pistol no.

Good Luck,

RMD




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>top level Bullseye

They don't worry about it either.
Mixed cases, standard powder measure--all shooter and the gun.
 
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With the right powder and a steady constant rhythm on the throw of the powder charge, the slight variations are meaningless at handgun ranges.

Unless you are making up test loads, measuring each load separately will make the benefits of hand loading nil.

I've chronoed loads using the standard powder measure on my Dillon and the variation was well within acceptable tolerances.

Trying to drop powder into a 9mm case using a funnel is a PITA.


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Doing test loads from min to max in the Speer book. Once I find a load the pistol likes I'll go from there and put together a couple hundred







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^^ No problem, I've had those days too.

Pistol reloading and powder throws go together [gump] like peas and carrots.[/gump] Indeed, the whole idea of a progressive press is mainly a pistol tool, IMO.

If you're reloading pistol cartridges on a single stage without a throw, you might as well get one of these. It would be just about the same.


I actually have one of those Lee Loader kits in .280 Rem.
I bought it in the 1980's when I was a poor broke college kid.
It made surprisingly accurate rifle ammunition.
 
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