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Not really in the market to drop $100 on a bench swage, as most of my brass is processed or commercial... But I still don't want to waste all that magnificent milsurp and PMC brass I'm shooting either.

What is a good solution for getting rid of crimped primer pockets on the cheap?


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http://www.midwayusa.com/viewp...productnumber=447022


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You can also use one of these...

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewP...productNumber=804809

However, for high volume of cases, I prefer to swage.


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I've used the RCBS, works fine, cheap enough. Best bet, don;t use milspec brass. Once fired commercial is pretty readily available for a price that is worth the extra time PP swaging.


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My experience is that the remers do not work for removing swaging primer pockets. I tried a couple and it did not work very well at all. The RCBS swagger works fine, requires a single stage press.


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I bought a Lyman primer pocket reamer for ~10 bucks. Pulled off the wooden handle, and chucked it in a cordless drill.

Voila. Also much faster than a bench mounted press.
 
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I've used the RCBS, works fine, cheap enough. Best bet, don;t use milspec brass. Once fired commercial is pretty readily available for a price that is worth the extra time PP swaging.


care to share a link on that? I'm finding plenty of 500-count brass but it's far from free (I could buy 4lbs of powder with that kinda cheese), and plenty of the commercial rounds I'm shooting in .223 have crimped primer pockets (PMC mostly).


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For what it's worth.... I've in the last two weeks gone down the same road you are. I have a huge quantity of LC surplus brass with the crimp. I have an RCBS swager but that didnt really seem to do much. The best solution I found was a Wilson Primer Pocket Reamer. Midway sells it but it's back ordered. I got one, in stock, from Russ Haydon's Shooters Supply (www.shooters-supply.com or phone # 253-587-7557) Incredibly nice people and it was in stock and cheaper than Midway. I don't know if your familiar with Wilson, but they make exceptionally well made tools. There reamer is designed to be used with there case cutting tool, but I took the little handle off of it and put in in the drill press. I can cut the crimp out pretty quickly and easily, but it's still a whole nother step thats really a pain. But it was the best solution I found to deal with the crimped cases. I've done over a thousand already and every new primer has gone right in.
As a last thought... you might also want to get the Wilson case holder as well, since the small .223 Rem cases are hard to hold onto, being that there so small.
Hope this all helps. It worked for me, but hindsight.... I'd wished I'd looked for un-crimped cases! It's not difficult, but it is time consuming!
 
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care to share a link on that?


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http://www.midwayusa.com/viewp...productnumber=447022

These work very good it the same one I have.

Jimsair, If it did not work for you you did not have it adjusted right. It took me several tries to get the depth set right.

The reamers remove brass from around the primmer pockets, the swager just reforms the pocket putting it back to where it was before the mil crimp swage.


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Dillon makes a bench mount primer pocket swager... works very well indeed and is fast as well.

The RCBS has worked well for me in the past... but it isn't awfully fast and is a bit picky about being adjusted correctly.

FWIW

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Dillon makes a bench mount primer pocket swager... works very well indeed and is fast as well.

The RCBS has worked well for me in the past... but it isn't awfully fast and is a bit picky about being adjusted correctly.

FWIW

Chuck


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Dillon makes a bench mount primer pocket swager...


That's exactly what I was referring to when I said "I don't want to drop $100 on a bench swager". :-)


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The Dillion swager may be expensive but it's well worth it in the time and frustration you don't have with others.
 
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For those occasional military crimped primer pockets I've just used my Lee Chamfer Tool to remove it. At under $3 from Midway and most stores its sure much more economical than any of the swagging dies. Now if you had thousands of cases to prep then the die would be worth it.
 
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Dillon makes a bench mount primer pocket swager...


That's exactly what I was referring to when I said "I don't want to drop $100 on a bench swager". :-)


How much brass do you have to swage? How else would you two 5 gallon buckets wroth? If you dont have a lot brass, then dont worry about it. Razz


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Dillon makes a bench mount primer pocket swager...


That's exactly what I was referring to when I said "I don't want to drop $100 on a bench swager". :-)


How much brass do you have to swage? How else would you two 5 gallon buckets wroth? If you dont have a lot brass, then dont worry about it. Razz


That's the thing, I really don't have that much rifle brass - I'm hitting up the reloading store today and hopefully I'll be getting a handheld reamer.


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