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Hey all- I am curious about IMR 4227 powder. I see it gets some use in 300 Blackout, especially in subsonic loads. Does anyone use it for any other rifle loads? Even as a 2nd or 3rd choice powder? I see a couple of very reduced .223 loads but not much else. Magnum pistol seems to be the primary use and that doesn't interest me. Anybody got any information on other uses? Bruce "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child — miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." -PJ O'Rourke “It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free." -Niccolo Machiavelli The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken | ||
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I use it exclusively for cast bullet military rifle match loads. Does very well in M1 Carbine as well. | |||
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I have about 3+ pounds of 4227, given by a relative. I think this powder is 80’s or so vintage. I have other, slower powders for revolvers which I don’t load that often. Did see some low speed rifle loads, low interest there too. I may eventually get around to it with the 357, 41, & 44 mag. | |||
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I didn’t plan on loading for the 7.62x39, but decided to get supplies to use up some 4227 powder. I have enough other, fresh powder for revolvers. It may not be max speeds, but IMR-4227 is commonly listed for the 7.62x39 ‘Russian’. | |||
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I don't load 300 subs, but I have a pound of 4227 on the shelf. I can't remember what I used it for! It comes up periodically in my load data, but another powder always seems to do better for the cartridge I am interested in. -------------------------------------------- Floridian by birth, Seminole by the grace of God | |||
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Thanks, everyone. I had seen it in stock and impulse ordered it. I realized afterwards that it doesn't work well for anything that I load regularly. I was able to cancel the order. Bruce "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child — miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." -PJ O'Rourke “It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free." -Niccolo Machiavelli The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken | |||
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Well, I thought I was able to cancel the order! Now, I have to find something to do with 8 lbs of this powder. 300 Blackout, here I come!  Bruce "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child — miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." -PJ O'Rourke “It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free." -Niccolo Machiavelli The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken | |||
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Did it come in an 8 lbs. jug? My last order came in 1 lbs. bottles. | |||
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8 lb jug showed up yesterday. Bruce "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child — miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." -PJ O'Rourke “It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free." -Niccolo Machiavelli The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken | |||
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It's good for cast bullet loads in rifle and some handgun cartridges. The only jacketed loads I've used it with has been for .30 carbine. | |||
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Just an idea. I found a free download of the Lee #1 manual from a Marlin site. The manual includes a handful of rifle loads with IMR-4227. https://www.marlinowners.com/t...d-references.281290/ The powder isn’t mainstream or ideal with the 223, but I plan to try some, light bullets. It isn’t near top speeds, but I have some ‘free’ powder I plan to use up. Yes I know about the magnum revolver loads. | |||
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