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I have reloaded for over thirty five years and have dies for and reloaded dozens of cartridges. If I am not trying to work up a load for a particular match rifle, I just like to load what you might call "military standard"?

I have loads for nearly everything, but I have never reloaded any 9mm.

Is there a "standard" load that is generally considered by reloaders for just general loading and storage? I have nine mm pistols of every type and brand but just have been shooting WW white box or what ever was handy at Wally world.

I would be interested in both FMJ and lead loads. I know that in .45 ACP I load both 230 grain lead and FMJ with the same charge of Unique and it works out beautifully. My interest in lead is that of economy and that I could load and store mass quantities a lot cheaper than FMJ.Does anyone know what load duplicates the NATO standard round?



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Posts: 8963 | Location: Indian Territory, USA | Registered: March 23, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I have loaded lots of lead,but switched to powder coating years ago.
I cast my own in five calibers from wheel weights I trade for.
I powder coat them all and the Harbor Freight powder cost six dollars to do a thousand +
I can run them up in the nato data.
You have leading in your barrels if you push lead that fast is what I found.
I had great sucess with Zero bullets,the price was better than name brand and they were bulk purchases.
 
Posts: 20756 | Location: Georgia | Registered: February 19, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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My 9mm range loads use 115gr bullets (lead, plated, or fmj) over 4.7gr Bullseye. It's not too hot, but functions well in a dozen or so 9mm pistols I've tried it in over the years. Never chrono'd it, but my manuals suggest it's in the 1,150'ish range.



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Posts: 12896 | Location: Birmingham, Alabama | Registered: February 25, 2009Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Currently, I use 147gr Black Bullets International over 3.1gr of VV N320. This gets me about 830fps - subsonic. And virtually no muzzle flip.

Simple and easy.


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Date Bullet Weight & Type Barrel Length & Model OAL Primer Temperature AVG FPS Dev Spread Ft lbs Chrono
41417 4.4 gr bullseye 115 gr 9mm XDM 5.25 1.156 CCI 63 F 1146 CED
41417 4.6 gr bullseye 115 gr 9mm XDM 5.25 1.156 CCI 63 F 1189 CED
41417 4.4 gr bullseye 115 gr 9mm P226 4.4 1.156 CCI 63 F 1101 CED
41417 4.4 gr bullseye 115 gr 9mm P290 2.9 1.156 CCI 63 F 1018 CED
41417 4.6 gr bullseye 115 gr 9mm P290 2.9 1.156 CCI 63 F 1058 CED
42397 115 gr XTP 4.1 gr bullseye SP2022 3.9 1.085 CCI 35 F 1098 309 CED
42397 124 gr Pre Delta 4.1 gr bullseye SP2022 3.9 1.085 CCI 35 F 1073 CED
42531 124 gr Pre Delta 4.1 gr bullseye SP2022 3.9 1.085 CCI 75f 1058.47 9.32 29 CALDWELL
42540 124 gr Pre Delta 4.3-4.4 gr bullseye SP2022 3.9 1.085 CCI 75f 1089 12.32 55 CALDWELL

The 115 gr is montana FMJs.
 
Posts: 406 | Location: Field of Dreams | Registered: September 07, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Look for a bullet you like and feeds well, then find a clean powder like VV N 320 or 340.
 
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I like plated 115 or 124 grain bullets (whatever I can find on sale) over Titegroup for both 9mm and .40 S&W. I know many don't like TG, but it meters well, is nice and consistent with these calibers, and you can load thousands of rounds with 1lb. I charge in batches and inspect the whole lot before I move on to bullet seating, so that combined with the small case size of the 9mm pretty much eliminates the chance for a double-charge.
 
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I use WST for 9mm minor loads & WSF or Unique for full power to +P loads. Lots of good powder choices.


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Charlie, I've loaded many thousands of rounds of 9MM. With rare exception, I never achieved the accuracy with cast lead bullets reported by some others. I did load thousands of rounds of 9mm cast lead and tried various weights, diameters, profiles,etc. with predominantly lackluster results. One notable exception was in using the Bar-Sto barrel in the FN/Browning Hi Power pistols. The Bar-Sto barrels, with their different chamber and leade dimensions and slower twist produced very good accuracy with cast lead bullets. With jacketed bullets, all was well in any of my 9MM pistols. My most used load approximated the ballistics of current NATO ammo. I used jacketed 115 and 124/125 grain bullets, with 6 grains of Unique, or 7 grains of Herco. The best 9MM accuracy I ever achieved was with use of the Sierra 115 JHC bullets. The velocities with Herco were higher, 1200+ FPS with the Unique vs. 1300+ with the Herco. The Unique load approximate the Winchester Q4318 NATO load. The Herco load approximates the slightly warmer IMI NATO load. There are many commonly available recipes for lighter cast bullet loads in the 9MM. I'd not recommend loading to NATO velocities with lead bullets due to leading,etc. This, even with barrels with finely finished bores,e.g., FN/ Browning Hi Powers, SIG P210s,etc. I have not used any of the new high tech. bullet coatings. Perhaps those might hold up to NATO level loads, at low cost, but I have not tried these so have no info to share in their use.


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Lead bullets in 9mm can be tricky or not, depends on the gun. This was just bulk practice ammo I had on the shelf. A 125gr LTC, nothing special or worked up. From my 1911/9mm @ 25yds offhand on a good day. Alloy, diameter & powder choice make a bigger diff in 9mm than some other calibers with lead bullets.


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I use Acme 115 gr coated bullets for my range and steel shooting bullets in 9mm. They are $65 per 1000.

You load them like lead bullets.
I generally use them over a load of 5.0 grains or 5.5 grains of Power Pistol. Cost per round to me is $0.116 to $0.119 (depending on the amount of powder used).
 
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I use WST with 124 FMJ for practice loads unsupervised, and wsf with 147gr for subs.




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