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February 17, 2020, 09:33 PM
Pyker
HDY FTX bullets question (Reflex/Deflex 64 step on in)
I have some HDY 45 Cal. .458" 325 gr FTX bulllets that I intended to reload into some 45/70 FTX cases - at least, until I found out that I would need a custom die to do so. Any reason I can't just use them with standard 45/70 cases?

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February 18, 2020, 07:44 AM
45 Cal
That was the size and weight I used in the 458 socom.
The 45/70 usually runs the 405 weight and it is considerably longer.
I ran into some of these troubles with seating all the weird stuff I got tangles up in with some of this semi wildcat stuff.
Having a lathe I just took measurement and cut new seating plugs for the bullet.
That bullet has a groove for a roll crimp and you will have a short nose in front and may cause loading problem in a lever gun
February 18, 2020, 09:36 AM
Pyker
Thanks. I used the factory loaded 325 gr FTX Leverevolution rounds without a problem in my 1895, and I was planning to reload the brass with the 325gr FTX bullets. However, the load data shows that the brass is trimmed shorter which requires a custom 45/70 die. I'm not sure if that's because of the bullet or some other reason. I have WIN 45/70 brass I could use.
February 18, 2020, 03:44 PM
sigcrazy7
My guess is that it’s probably calling for a custom die because the crimp is lower. Just get a $12 Lee factory crimp die and use your regular 45/70 dies for everything but the crimp.



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February 18, 2020, 04:15 PM
Pyker
quote:
Originally posted by sigcrazy7:
My guess is that it’s probably calling for a custom die because the crimp is lower. Just get a $12 Lee factory crimp die and use your regular 45/70 dies for everything but the crimp.


I have a 45/70 crimp die already. Maybe I can just adjust that one to crimp lower. Seems overkill to have a custom die just for one type of bullet and one type of case, but what do I know?

I'll probably end up just eating the $$ and shitcanning the brass and bullets and go back to the usual components.
March 01, 2020, 04:18 PM
reflex/deflex 64
Have you checked on a Hornady die? That’s where RCBS sent me years ago


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March 01, 2020, 05:23 PM
Pyker
I have, but I'm not buying one die just to load 40 cases. I have a 4 die Lee 45/70 set. I'll just stick to using standard brass and bullets.
March 02, 2020, 09:46 AM
reflex/deflex 64
quote:
Originally posted by Pyker:
I have, but I'm not buying one die just to load 40 cases. I have a 4 die Lee 45/70 set. I'll just stick to using standard brass and bullets.
cant blame you as that is where I’m at. I have managed to collect 120 pieces of brass now. I’m getting close to popping for the die before I change my focus and start casting or some other foolishness.


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March 02, 2020, 09:56 PM
Pyker
quote:
Originally posted by reflex/deflex 64:
quote:
Originally posted by Pyker:
I have, but I'm not buying one die just to load 40 cases. I have a 4 die Lee 45/70 set. I'll just stick to using standard brass and bullets.
cant blame you as that is where I’m at. I have managed to collect 120 pieces of brass now. I’m getting close to popping for the die before I change my focus and start casting or some other foolishness.


You want these? Call it a karma.