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Can't buy ammo now so I will have to dust off the loading equipment.

Any suggestions for universal powders for Rifle and handgun? Looking to stock up.

For rifle primarily .223, 308, 30/06, 6.5 Creedmore, 30/30. I have several magnums but I'm not concerned about powder for them.

For handgun, 9mm, 45acp,44mag.357 mag.45colt.
460,445SuperMag,454Casull,not concerned with those calibers but.
 
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For rifle I’d go H4895 or Varget. But I’m not much of a rifleman.

Handgun: Universal or Unique or Un-Equal will be the most versatile. You can load all of your mentioned calibers with it. You should probably do one “magnum” handgun powder like H110 or 2400 and one “non-magnum” if you want to get the most out of the big boomers. But if you don’t care about getting max power then unique will work.


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Yep, H-4895 and Hodgdon Universal covers a wide spectrum.
 
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That H4895 is my go to for decades now.
2400 is what I use in heavy mag pistols,red dot is another good one on 45 apc
 
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4895 is a solid choice. If you can’t get it or want a ball powder, 748 works well.



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Varget covers a lot of ground although I save it for my 308 loads mostly.
 
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Good Luck on finding popular powders. Varget, 4350, H1000, Retumbo, Trail Boss, 4831sc/reg, RL 16...… all vaporware.

Hodgon is an importer basically. Their production is largely based in Australia. Right in the path of the recent fires which destroyed 1 of their factories and damaged another.

Good Luck.

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I bought 8# of Unique and 8# of H4895.
No Varget around, but I do have a few 1# cans in my inventory now.
Best I could do on 2400 was a 4# can.I do have several 1# cans of 2400 and H110 in inventory.
I also have a few pounds of powder for the magnum rifles in inventory.

I took the opportunity to buy more primers, and bullets also.

I feel much better now.
 
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Those should be just fine.
 
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4895 is a solid choice. If you can’t get it or want a ball powder, 748 works well.


Please say more about win 748, new powder for me I typically use IMR 4895. 167 to 175 match king boat tails in M1as mix of LC and other military brass as well as some Lapua and Starline brass.


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Win 748 is right near Varget in burn rate, medium-ish rifle powder. It does cover a wide spectrum. 748 is just a bit slower than the 4895’s.

When it comes to the 8lb jugs of powder I cross-reference my manuals toward what I load the most. For me that comes down to the 223,243,308 and lesser amounts of the 30-06 & 300WSM.

I have a handful of less common rounds, usually 4985 or H-4350 covers them.
 
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Win 748 is right near Varget in burn rate, medium-ish rifle powder. It does cover a wide spectrum. 748 is just a bit slower than the 4895’s.

When it comes to the 8lb jugs of powder I cross-reference my manuals toward what I load the most. For me that comes down to the 223,243,308 and lesser amounts of the 30-06 & 300WSM.

I have a handful of less common rounds, usually 4985 or H-4350 covers them.


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I guess is very much like BLC2, I have the various burn rate tables. And I found where ammo guide had hidden 748 finally NOT under Win oh well. sO I think will be fine for my usage though likely will go with proven recipe for IMR 4895 for the next batch. Would be nice to have a medium ish powder that is in reasonable supply, certainly not now, and is less temperature sensitive than IMR 4895. I was thinking I could load up some 223 for friends and neighbors using 748 but need the dies and would just a soon use the activity as a chance for them to learn mechanics and work up loads themselves.


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I topped off my inventory early last week and ordered the following while they still had it at Graf's...

-8# of IMR-4895
-8# of W748
-8# of IMR-4064
-5# of RL-15
-4# of H-Universal

-200 bullets of Berger 175gr OTM
-200 bullets of Berger 175gr Match Target LR
-200 bullets of Sierra 175gr SMK's


That should keep me going for a long while.

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When powder finally became available again after Newtown I started buying it whenever I had cash to spare. Currently I've got 30 to 40# of both Varget and H-4350 on hand. I use Varget for match loads in .223 and .308, and H-4350 in 6.5CM. Not as much, but WST, Bullseye and 231/HP-38 for the handguns. Oh, and Trail Boss for mouse fart loads for the .45LC.
 
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I topped off my inventory early last week and ordered the following while they still had it at Graf's...

-8# of IMR-4895
-8# of W748
-8# of IMR-4064
-5# of RL-15
-4# of H-Universal

-200 bullets of Berger 175gr OTM
-200 bullets of Berger 175gr Match Target LR
-200 bullets of Sierra 175gr SMK's


That should keep me going for a long while.

Tony.

Good to see another 308 er stocking up on 748. I tend to go a bit lighter bullet weight wise 168 HPBT. Are the berger’s and 175 for supersonic out to 900 1000?


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When powder finally became available again after Newtown I started buying it whenever I had cash to spare. Currently I've got 30 to 40# of both Varget and H-4350 on hand. I use Varget for match loads in .223 and .308, and H-4350 in 6.5CM. Not as much, but WST, Bullseye and 231/HP-38 for the handguns. Oh, and Trail Boss for mouse fart loads for the .45LC.


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W748 seems to be a powder that people seem to either love or hate. People will bitch about it running hot and being temp sensitive. What really is the expectation for a double base, spherical propellant? It’s not an Extreme powder, after all.

It’s versatile, meters well, and isn’t overly difficult to find. My favorite application is the 30-30. It is like rocket fuel for the 30-30, easily getting 2400fps from a 150grn bullet, with no pressure signs. I wouldn’t hesitate to use it in 223, if I didn’t have 60 pounds of 2230 and 18,000 55grn bullets.

I do prefer stick powders for accurate, low volume loading. In fact, before I discovered Enduron powders, I was dead set on single base powders. But when I want to knock out basic rounds quickly and in high volume, I do like using W748.



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W748 seems to be a powder that people seem to either love or hate. People will bitch about it running hot and being temp sensitive. What really is the expectation for a double base, spherical propellant? It’s not an Extreme powder, after all.

It’s versatile, meters well, and isn’t overly difficult to find. My favorite application is the 30-30. It is like rocket fuel for the 30-30, easily getting 2400fps from a 150grn bullet, with no pressure signs. I wouldn’t hesitate to use it in 223, if I didn’t have 60 pounds of 2230 and 18,000 55grn bullets.

I do prefer stick powders for accurate, low volume loading. In fact, before I discovered Enduron powders, I was dead set on single base powders. But when I want to knock out basic rounds quickly and in high volume, I do like using W748.


Thanks yeah I think I will save 748 for 556 loads for neighbors then or as back up I have enough 4895 and 4064 and N150 and one of the alliant medium powders.


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W748 seems to be a powder that people seem to either love or hate. People will bitch about it running hot and being temp sensitive. What really is the expectation for a double base, spherical propellant? It’s not an Extreme powder, after all.

It’s versatile, meters well, and isn’t overly difficult to find. My favorite application is the 30-30. It is like rocket fuel for the 30-30, easily getting 2400fps from a 150grn bullet, with no pressure signs. I wouldn’t hesitate to use it in 223, if I didn’t have 60 pounds of 2230 and 18,000 55grn bullets.

I do prefer stick powders for accurate, low volume loading. In fact, before I discovered Enduron powders, I was dead set on single base powders. But when I want to knock out basic rounds quickly and in high volume, I do like using W748.



Lots of 223 pills and 2230. I have cases and primers for 223 but will need dies and caliber conversion kit. we shall see should have enough 748 to get neighbor off and running. He is a fireman off on 72 hour assignment. I made sure his wife and two little ones had couple tubes worth of double aught for his duck gun. He really has nothing tactical except for 223 he has not shot much. Some mags that have seen a lot of service, no Pmags. Other neighbors seem to think he and I will protect them. I say I only have a couple single shot 22s and alas they got lost in the local river.


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For handgun 231 or Bullseye have multi caliber recipes. I keep with BLC-2 or AR Comp since I only have 5.56 rifles.




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