I got pulled over for speeding, 13 over the limit, about 1 AM the other night near my home in Florida. I rolled down my window and kept my hands on the steering wheel. The officer shined his light on me and asked for my license. When I removed my license from the clear pocket in my wallet he saw my carry permit underneath and asked if I was armed. I told him my gun was in the console. He asked me to exit the truck and asked if I had any other weapons on my person. I told him I had a Benchmade auto knife in my right front pocket. He asked me to lift my shirt and he removed the knife and placed it on my console. Then he asked me to stand behind the truck and went to his cruiser to run my license. He never asked for registration or insurance and it took about 2 minutes for him to come back and hand me my license. Told me to watch my speed and have a nice night. This officer was calm, respectful and professional and he didn't give me a ticket.
Not long ago I was headed to my son’s cabin in Vermont three miles from the Canadian border. I was taking a route I don’t normally use and I missed the turn I was looking for. I rounded a bend and there was the border station for entry into Canada. I slowed down and mad a uturn ...instantly two Border Patrol vehicles pulled me over. I explained that I had no intention to go to Canada and was headed to a town east of the border crossing. They ran my driver’s license and asked if I had any law enforcement contact. I told them no and then they asked if they could search my vehicle with a dog and I said sure. Then they asked if I wanted to get out of the vehicle. Yes ! I said. But oh by the way I have an unloaded shotgun in the back seat and a loaded 38 in my right front pocket.I was asked why I had a 38. Because I can. Then he said that’s a good reason. Vermont is a constitutional carry state with nor permit or need to notify. So I was told to exit the vehicle and keep my hand away from my front pocket. I folded my arms and chatted while they searched my vehicle with the dog and the bed of the truck. After some small talk they said I could leave. I thanked them for their service and shook both of the agents hands. They were surprised I was happy to be searched. These feds were polite and professional. I was happy to have a nice interaction with the Border Patrol
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Years ago when I first started as a reserve deputy one of the first things that I was taught was to assume EVERYONE has a gun until proven otherwise.
Seemed like smart concept to me.
Integrity is doing the right thing, even when nobody is looking.
There is no guaranteed good way to inform in states that require it. Even if you inform out of courtesey and respect for the of officer in a state that doesn't required it, the officer may be a really bad listener and react negatively to the word "gun". It's happened to my twice, and I'm in a no-inform required state. So the last thing I say in a traffic stop in my state is "gun", or anything that sounds like it. Some officers are not reasonable, balanced, and intelligent people in general. So unless you get a really good officer, it's a crap shoot.
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There is no requirement to inform in my state. If they don't ask, I don't tell.
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i think there is some variation from county to county. my issuing county (monterey) requires it. The last renewal class i took was in santa cruz county and they said no. as it is, i must announce anywhere in the state because my issuing county is monterey regardless of where i take the class
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Here in SC I was stopped twice. Once just a general check of everyone and the other a small speeding infraction.
During the general check when told I had a CWP and was carrying the officer just said "Fine, keep it where it is."
During the speeding I was asked where I was carrying and then what kind. He said he would prefer to carry an H&K (mine) to an M&P (his) and told me to watch my speed.
No big deal at either stop.
Why are we encouraged not to judge all Muslims by the lunatics BUT are encouraged to judge all gun owners by the very few lunatics? Ironic?
I have not read all the responses to the OP, but I consider my CCW permit a "No Ticket Charm" as I have never gotten a ticket upon producing the CCW permit.
Of course I am pleasant, obviously not a threat and apologetic even at one time at 30 over the limit.This message has been edited. Last edited by: EasyFire,
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Are they checking for "your papers," or what?This message has been edited. Last edited by: egregore,
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Just tell me you are a CHL holder and that you have your firearm on you (in whatever location it is). THen hand me your driver's license, insurance card, and CHL (if applicable)
I'll give you instructions, that 99.99999% of the time are going to be:
"Thank you for informing me, for the remainder of this traffic stop please make sure that it remains right there and you don't handle it until after we have conducted our business."
Strive to live your life so when you wake up in the morning and your feet hit the floor, the devil says "Oh crap, he's up."
Actually, it's not poor advice. I've read too many threads where officers freak out and turn a "routine stop" into something resembling a felony stop. The person is brought out of the vehicle, hands on the hood.....patted down and the firearm removed like he was Johnny Dangerous.
I've read posts where the gun is removed and maybe disassembled (slide from frame), bullets removed from the magazine......given back or placed in the trunk with a stern warning.......Don't you load that until I'm gone!!!
I'm a 20+ year LE officer and I get asked the question a lot.....inform or not. If required by your state, then you must inform. In my state (PA), there is no duty to inform. I give them an honest answer.......it's going to be a 50/50 shot.
You may get an officer that will just say, thank you....just don't make any sudden movements, etc....we'll take care of business and both go out separate ways.
Or, you'll get the guy who will tense up.......call for back up because the driver is armed.......next thing you know there are 2-3 other cars showing up and everything turns into a shit show.
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If the Police says, "Don't show me yours and I won't show you mine," And you say,
"Excuse me while I whip this out!"
you will probably get your ass kicked. ---Chris Rock (maybe)
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