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Hi Captain,
Did you have a chance to watch the two videos in my thread?

http://sigforum.com/eve/forums...0601935/m/5050071914

I've also been looking at appendix carry and so far, I am leaning toward the holster I found because of where it is positioned when sitting.

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You will never have access to your gun if you are in any position other than standing. That holster is a death trap, please reconsider.


THIS!!!


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Asking how appendix carry works is like asking how it works to shoot hogs with a rifle; the devil is in the details. Carrying a P239 or 2" S&W J frame like that including while sitting works fine for me, and I’m not particularly svelte. On the other hand, I’ve never tried carrying an 8 3/8" S&W model 629 like that, and doubt that it would be very comfortable if I did.




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While experimenting it would be wise to try your setup out in the car to see exactly where your seatbelt would ride.

With my PM9 in a Nemesis I can get the belt below the Kahr. With my G29 or G19 in a Don Hume clip-on the seat belt is over the top of the gun. I think an accident could be really freaking ugly under those conditions, and don't consider a setup that has the seat belt over my rig to be safe at all.





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I'm debating switching to AIWB and messing around with it now (P6 in a Remora). Here is a decent video from Sig Academy. Seated demo at the end.





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It'll be dependent upon your body type. I carry AIWB daily, off-duty, going to court, everything now. I'm 6'1" & about 230#, so not a small guy, and it works very well for me. G19 or FNS9C, with the G19 being used most of the time (80% +). My brand is JM Custom Kydex; they make several AIWB rigs, but the one I get is called the "George". Full sweat guard & this is a big thing that really made AIWB work for me.....get the neoprene wedge with the holster. It really tucks the grip back into your body. I carry my spare mag in front, opposite side (left side for me) in an OWB kydex pouch. I can email you some pics if you'd like, but I don't photo bucket.


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What's the second rule of gun safety? Never let the muzzle of a gun cover anything you're not willing to destroy.
 
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What's the second rule of gun safety? Never let the muzzle of a gun cover anything you're not willing to destroy.


Does it count as "covering" while it's resting inside the holster? If that's the case, it'll be "covering" one part of the body almost anywhere you carry it.


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When it's in the holster, maybe not so much, When it's being drawn or reholstered, definitely.

Think about what the muzzle is pointed at when drawing/reholstering AIWB, especially sitting, vs IWB between 3 and 5 o'clock.

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Originally posted by BBMW:
What's the second rule of gun safety? Never let the muzzle of a gun cover anything you're not willing to destroy.


Does it count as "covering" while it's resting inside the holster? If that's the case, it'll be "covering" one part of the body almost anywhere you carry it.
 
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When it's in the holster, maybe not so much, When it's being drawn or reholstered, definitely.

Think about what the muzzle is pointed at when drawing/reholstering AIWB, especially sitting, vs IWB between 3 and 5 o'clock.


Ugh. Yeah, valid point. I don't like thinking about it! AIWB is so damn fast and handy. I've tried to minimize the risk, but no denying it, it IS a bigger risk because of where the muzzle points during reholster. I don't know I'll switch back to OWB or IWB behind the hip, but I need to think about it.


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What's the second rule of gun safety? Never let the muzzle of a gun cover anything you're not willing to destroy.

Yes, but violation of just one rule will not cause you to shoot yourself. Each rule is a layer of safety. It takes violating at least two, three, sometimes all four. Pay attention to Rule Three (keep your finger off the trigger until the gun is on target) and there won't be a problem. How safe is it when you can't get to your gun when you need it?



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I just got 2 Vedder LightTuck holsters on Friday. One for my Glock 19 and one for the 43. Today was the first chance I've had to try one. After some adjustment, (I went to the middle setting) I've been wearing the one with the 19 since about 10:00. I'm surprised how easy it is to carry this way. I'm not a tiny guy and it's pretty darn comfortable. I'm wearing it around 12:30/1:00 position. I imagine carrying the 43 this way will be even easier.
 
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When it's in the holster, maybe not so much, When it's being drawn or reholstered, definitely.

Think about what the muzzle is pointed at when drawing/reholstering AIWB, especially sitting, vs IWB between 3 and 5 o'clock.

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Originally posted by BBMW:
What's the second rule of gun safety? Never let the muzzle of a gun cover anything you're not willing to destroy.


Does it count as "covering" while it's resting inside the holster? If that's the case, it'll be "covering" one part of the body almost anywhere you carry it.


There is no IWB concealment method that I am aware of that does not include the potential to flag yourself. The process of grasping and drawing the gun at the 3, 4, 5, and 6 o'clock positions, and especially under stress, all carry the inherent possibility and likelihood that you will "cover" some portion of your body. This is true even of non IWB carry methods if you really break them down.

AIWB, in actuality, has no more, and often less risk of covering part of your body.

I would take a look at Dave Spaulding and Travis Haley's videos on the topic. Haley, in particular, really breaks it down logically.

I am on my phone, so I can't embed, but here is Haley's video:

https://youtu.be/r4Pv_YCm-i0

And two from Spaulding:

https://youtu.be/Ve2JvXxNApw
https://youtu.be/3_KtKw58iVM
 
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That looks painful. If I'm going to put a gun in my crotch, I'll pull out my old Thunderwear.

My gut hurts just looking at those pics.


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Does it count as "covering" while it's resting inside the holster? If that's the case, it'll be "covering" one part of the body almost anywhere you carry it.


Not at all. I don't carry anywhere that my weapon's muzzle points at or through my body. That's inside the waistband or out, small of back, ankle, or pocket.

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Yes, but violation of just one rule will not cause you to shoot yourself. Each rule is a layer of safety. It takes violating at least two, three, sometimes all four. Pay attention to Rule Three (keep your finger off the trigger until the gun is on target) and there won't be a problem. How safe is it when you can't get to your gun when you need it?


It only takes one, once.

Finger off the trigger, snag it while reholstering. Covering the wrong thing becomes immediately apparent.
 
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