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Does anyone have any new info of CC in Walmart? A Walmart worker was trying to tell me about their policy today but because she wasn't born here I couldn't really understand her (my bad hearing too).
So in the morning I'm going to stop back by and ask one of the manager women I talk to sometimes about it.

Anybody have any ammo for me to use?



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Call corporate. Their policies are set there.
 
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Call corporate. Their policies are set there.


Thanks I would but I'll be talking to the woman at about 6 in the morning.



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I don't care what their 'policy' is. If it is posted correctly, the I will acknowledge it. If not, I'm carrying. I've never seen it posted at a Walmart.


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I don't care what their 'policy' is. If it is posted correctly, the I will acknowledge it. If not, I'm carrying. I've never seen it posted at a Walmart.


The only issue is if he is wanting to be an employee, then policy takes over, unfortunately. Look at pizza hut and their drivers.


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I don't care what their 'policy' is. If it is posted correctly, the I will acknowledge it. If not, I'm carrying. I've never seen it posted at a Walmart.


The only issue is if he is wanting to be an employee, then policy takes over, unfortunately. Look at pizza hut and their drivers.


NO I don't want to work there. Big Grin



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Employee policy is different from customer policy.
Asking the manager will only cause a problem. I doubt that a store manager will freely say, "Sure we welcome people with guns in our store". Instead look for a no gun sign posted in the front window. If there isn't one then the case is closed. If there is one, obey it, then ask the store manager why, then contact Corporate Headquarters.
I mean why would you even ask if no sign is posted?
 
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Just something I thought I would throw out there.

I constantly see these same questions asked, carrying at Wal Mart, carrying at this store or that store, ect..

Now to me concealed is concealed and as a person who has a permit you should also have the responsibility to make sure your weapon is concealed. If you can't carry X model gun without printing then you should have enough sense to obtain a weapon and carry method that will allow for total concealment.

That out of the way lets say that the Wal Mart you are about to enter does have the correct posting. Now if you took the steps to ensure total concealment of your weapon who in this world besides yourself will know you are carrying?? To further drive the point home in a store like Wal Mart, which where I live is always busy and always totaly crowded, how many people think that anyone would even notice some printing enough to even make a fuss about it??

So posted or not anything other than a govt. facility I would carry anyways knowing full well the chances of someone ever noticing my weapon are about 1,000,000 to 1. By the slim chance I may need to use my handgun either in the store or more probable in the parking lot, I would much rather have it and use it if need be and deal with the consequences later, than need it and not have it. Same thing goes for pizza delivery people. I guess it would all depend on where you are delivering to but lets face it being a pizza delivery man is not a solid career here, I don't think anyone plans to make it a lifelong emoployment. I have known a few delivery guys who were robbed by either knife or gun point and I am sorry but I would gladly risk loosing my job there to protect my self.
 
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Why the hell are you stirring the pot? If it is not posted on the door, it matters not what their policies are.

If it is posted, than start hammering them to get it unposted.

At best, the manager says it is discouraged.

At worst your tack causes the manager to post the sign after doing the reseach.

Why of why are you persuing this. You need to find better ways to use your free time.

May I suggest you start an AR or 1911 build? Far more productive that stirring problems where none exist.


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I don't see it as stirring the pot. If one manager thinks they can go against corporate policy on the matter which in the past IIRC has been to allow it if the location they're in allows it, then that manager should get swatted by corporate for violating policies.

The only way things ever get changed is by people "stirring the pot". At least IMO.
 
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NO I don't want to work there. Big Grin


But he doesn't work there, nor does he want to work there so corporate policy has no bearing over whether he can carry or not.

No signs up, he is good to go. He can legally carry there. Sooooo, why mess wtih it.

ETA: He doesn't have a dog in this fight as far as I can tell. Unless he is rallying for the rights of the Wal-Mart employees to be able to carry, he is wasting his time. The managers blessing on his choice to legally carry in the store has no weight here.

Now, if she, someone with obvious authority says to him, "Sir, you may not concealed carry in this store" than he has just been given notice, just as legally binding as if the sign had been posted. If after recieving that notice, he carries in the store and is found out, it is criminal trespass.

Seems like alot to lose and nothing to gain from this little dustup


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JDKNO, it's called obeying the law.
Sandman, it is stirring the pot if no sign is posted.
 
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we've had this discussion on opencarry.org several times. Walmart corporate always replies that policy is to follow state law where the store is located.


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But he doesn't work there, nor does he want to work there so corporate policy has no bearing over whether he can carry or not.


My point was, last I heard, Wal-Mart at the corporate level does not have a policy to restrict carry, open or concealed, inside their stores.

Talking to the local manager has proven useless in the past. From what I have read about others battles with the local store signage is a local store cannot have their own policies. Thus, if Wal-Mart HQ doesn't tell their stores to restrict carry, then Wal-Mart Tucson cannot.

Yes, if there is a sign and by your state law a sign means something, then you're breaking the law by entering. What I am saying is, last I heard, Wal-Mart the company does not have a policy to restrict carry. So, with due diligence, you can get the sign removed at your local store.
 
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*snip* So, with due diligence, you can get the sign removed at your local store.


If there is a sign, than by all means tear into them. Get them to take it down. That worked at Lowes.

From what I gathered from our OP, his local store isn't posted. He just wants permission from management to carry.


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From what I gathered from our OP, his local store isn't posted. He just wants permission from management to carry.


Oh, I think you're right. I read too much into the post. By all means, if there's no sign, there's no problem...a least in my state.
 
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I have a Louisiana Concealed Handgun Permit and have been carrying concealed at Walmart for 12 yrs. Open and concealed carry is legal in Louisiana.
I only carry concealed.
There are no signs at the doors.
I was only going to ask a woman I talk to sometimes in Walmart what the policy was.
I did not ask her.

Thanks for the response.


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May I suggest you start an AR or 1911 build? Far more productive that stirring problems where none exist.


I have a Bushmaster and I don't want a 1911 so I'll do what I want with MY time.



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I was only going to ask a woman I talk to sometimes in Walmart what the policy was.


Can you please clarify. Prying minds want to know.

Were you inquiring as to their employee policy, as in how it affects them as employees?

OR....

Are you curious is that have a written policy for customers (open of concealed)?


Good choice on the Bushy by the way. Wink


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I was only going to ask a woman I talk to sometimes in Walmart what the policy was.


Can you please clarify. Prying minds want to know.

Were you inquiring as to their employee policy, as in how it affects them as employees?

OR....

Are you curious is that have a written policy for customers (open of concealed)?


Good choice on the Bushy by the way. Wink


I was just going to ask her what she knew about the policy for customers. I'm not going to ask now.



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My policy is to carry 2 guns in Walmart since I am usually one of the few people in there that speaks English.


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