So over the last couple of years I’ve resumed my study of martial arts. While I’m FAR from being any kind of master, I will say that I’m comfortable with using BJJ and Kali in full contact scenarios (we do full contact drills quite often in both). I’ve learned a great deal about knife fighting, and it’s really taught me a lot about people. I’ve been trained to carry and use a handgun for personal defense too, and I’ve carried and stayed current with my glocks over the years religiously. With this said, knowing what I know about physical conflict - like distances typically encountered, warming signs, etc., plus the relatively safe area I live in (Wyoming), I’ve been thinking about getting away from my semi auto guns and going to a simple snub 38. My main rationale is the simplicity.
So with all that said, I’m curious if anyone else here has made a similar shift?
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Revolvers, even light weight snubbies like the Ruger LCR I had, are too bulky, IMO. My little pocket gun, these days, is my Ruger LCP.
That being said, my feeling is one should carry the most firepower one can conveniently, comfortably carry. That training you have is wonderful, but ISTM it'll do you little good in the unlikely event you should find yourself facing an armed threat.
But to each their own.
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These days, I don't see the point in carrying a 5 shot .38 snub revolver, when in the same size package you can carry something like a 9mm P365 and have double the capacity, better trigger, better sights, and significantly faster and higher capacity reloads, plus a better-performing round.
Thank you for the input!
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I love revolvers and have a bunch, that said I carry two semi autos. A Glock 17 in a Holster Jim Nelson made for me and a Sig P290 on my ankle. I'm one of Mas Ayoobs senior instructors and was an 11B for 24 years. I've pulled my Sig 229 once and a tiny AMT once (I had to fire)
I am an old school revolver guy. My current EDC is a P250. A revolver like semi auto. The snub can be a great choice for EDC provided:
You practice with it enough to know realistically how it will perform for you. This includes reloading it under stress. Like any handgun, it has its pros and cons. With a background in martial arts you already know that to be proficient with your skills, you must practice extensively to the point that your responses become instinctive.
The snub revolver benefits from this type of practice, maybe more so than any other handgun.
When I carry a snub, it is a Ruger SP-101 Wiley Clapp model. Its weight and excellent sights address 2 factors with snub carry: Accuracy and recoil recovery with full power defensive loads.
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I agree with this as well. 5 rounds for me isn't comforting. If you miss, dont get stopping hits or there are multiple threats you are toast! I realize the typical self defense scenerio is 2-3 feet with and a couple of rounds. But what if it isnt typical.
I carry a 320 carry and 320 sc as back up. If my wife is with and there is time I am able to arm her!!!
dunno, on the semi-auto vs revolver question, I still trust the reliability of the small revolver compared to small semi autos.
in my decades of shooting, I always found small autos to be at the bottom of the curve when it comes to reliability.
I trust the new generation of proven full size autos, but not the small autos. I've even had trouble with newer small autos like the P238, etc.
I carry a Colt Cobra (2017) with 125 grain +P HP and either one or two Bianchi speed strips. The Cobra carry's six rounds and handles the +p ammo like a champ. Am I prepared for any reasonable threat? I think so. Am I crazy for packing only a six shot handgun? Could be however, so far in my sixty years I have yet to draw a handgun in self defense including my career in the Marines.
I also have a Colt Commander Lightweight and just picked up a Colt Defender, either of which I can carry so there are options of a heavier bullet more rounds and a faster reload.
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Carry whatever makes you feel equipped to handle the threat, you won't hear anything from me useless you can't use what you carry.
I carried a j frame and later an RCR as that is all I could conceal in a very non permissive environment.
If I lived in a cold climate I would still carry a shrouded hammer snubbie in my coat pocket.
Anymore it's mainly an LC9s daily and a G17 or BHP on the weekends or if I am going somewhere that I can conceal them.
When I carried a small framed revolver I practiced with it as much as i did with my full sized pistols....that's one of the reasons I switched to a compact 9mm...cost of ammo
Also they are, in most ways, easier to conceal.
I like revolvers. My first handguns were revolvers and I still carry them, though not as much as I used to. If I carry a revolver, it's usually a S&W 642 with +p gold dots.
The chief reasons I moved from revolvers was the extra cleaning with five or six cylinders, the bulk of speed loaders, or the bianchi speed strips floating in a pocket, or the dump pouch, loading 2X2, compared to more capacity, ease of use, less contamination, simplicity of self-contained magazines that protect rounds and are easier and faster to reload, etc.
When you do carry, you have to balance any potential grappling you might do against the risk of your handgun getting taken, lost, or injuring you as you roll over it, regardless of what you're carrying. If you're in a mauling situation, then you may be in danger of losing that weapon, which means that you may be far less inclined to rely on your hand to hand skills out of necessity of protecting your weapon. With that being the case, how many people ever got in a gunfight and later opined that they wished they'd had less ammunition, a smaller pistol, less grip, and a weaker cartridge? I'm guessing not many.
If going to a small revolver, it is hard to beat the LCR in .327 Federal Magnum. Six shooter. Two speed strips gives me 18 rounds total.
You may be onto something there. especially if you have a reloading set, and get a set of .32 dies (dice?).
While I agree and completely understand.... And I am with ya on 5 shot 38.... Until the day your broke down by the road and 3 or 4 stop to take advantage of the situation... To each his own but we just never know what to expect so plan a little bigger.... Just in case...
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On occasion I carry my Colt Night Cobra loaded with Federal 130 gr.HST micro. Six rounds beats five anytime. I usually carry, and prefer, my HK45C though.
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Normally when I carry during the day it’s a double stack 9 or 40 with two extra mags. However, in the morning when I ride my bicycle (around 0345-0415 hrs) around the area, I carry a .38 LCR loaded with 2 rounds of snake shot and 3 rounds of JHP, and I feel well-armed. The snake shot cartridges are positioned to be the next rounds fired.
At that time of the morning, in my particular area, I almost never encounter anyone else on foot or on 2 wheels. The occasional power walker or homeless person is rare. I’m more concerned about encountering a rattlesnake or aggressive javelina, bobcat, or coyote.
I like the LCR because a little sweat isn’t going to hurt it, and the super light weight is unnoticeable in my Cross Breed belly band. I’ve been very happy with the Cross Breed belly band, too; it keeps the LCR securely in place so I don’t have to worry about it dropping over bumps or rough terrain.
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I carried a 642 for years. One day I thought I was about to be In the middle of a gun store robbery with 3 guys, one that was carrying an sks. All of the sudden 5 shots didn't seem like much.
Still carry a kahr pm9 mostly. It's 7 shots and quick reload. Carry a g43x a good bit now. May upgrade to a gen 5 g19. Carried a g19 a good bit. There is still nothing that compares to size/capacity/weight. HK p2000 is pretty close and gets carried more when AIWB.
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Truer words have not been spoken. That being said I've been carrying a J frame for about five years because I never have to dress around it. Lately however, I've been thinking about the limitations of the revolver. With the J frame it's capacity, and the lack of being able to quickly top off a partially empty gun. I decided to start carrying my G26 for both these reasons, althoug the J frams still sees limited use depending on how I'm dressed and where I'm going.
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I love the idea of carrying a large high capacity handgun, but for my lifestyle and dress it's just not practical or needed. For me it's a j frame mostly or Ruger lcp when I really need a tiny gun. I really like the simplicity of a revolver.
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