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Maybe someone out there might want to chime in on this one.....What is Michigan's official open carry policy? I know it may be pointless to open carry but it is something I just would like to know.


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MI has no "official" open-carry policy, JG. For those of us not formally schooled in law, it remains one of those "eccentricities", i.e. it's not illegal, therefore it's legal.

When concealed carry was outlawed in Michigan, open-carry wasn't considered an issue and wasn't addressed in Michigan law. That still remains to be the case today. As to the prudence of open-carry, that is largely dependent on the area of the state that you live in. It certain areas it's considered fairly, even widely, acceptable. In others, of course, you'd find yourself neck-deep in hooky even if you're within your legal rights.

My unofficial "official" knowledge of open-carry in MI is that anyone, 18-years-old or older, who may legally own a handgun may carry the gun openly-holstered in a manner such that NO portion of either the gun or holster is covered in any way, shape or form. If the flap of a jacket or fold of a shirt should "accidentally" cover any part of the gun or holster, you'd better be carrying a concealed pistol license. Wink

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Also, I have heard that getting into a vehicle is considered "concealed". If open carrying, you must remove your firearm upon entering the vehicle and store it according to law...unless, that is, you have a CPL.


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If the flap of a jacket or fold of a shirt should "accidentally" cover any part of the gun or holster, you'd better be carrying a concealed pistol license.


When we took our CPL training class, the instructor told us almost the exact same thing. He mentioned that it would be legal to open-carry while hunting, BUT don't let any part of your shirt or jacket cover it up, as that would be considered concealing.
 
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If the flap of a jacket or fold of a shirt should "accidentally" cover any part of the gun or holster, you'd better be carrying a concealed pistol license.


When we took our CPL training class, the instructor told us almost the exact same thing. He mentioned that it would be legal to open-carry while hunting, BUT don't let any part of your shirt or jacket cover it up, as that would be considered concealing.


Probably the most likely, and most common, time/situation to screw up, in my opinion. The police might be "forgiving" and simply dish out a stern warning but the DNR isn't going to forgive anything. Very humorless individuals, the DNR.

johnson27's point is well-worth noting, as well. Carrying in a car is absolutely considered "concealed carry" whether in plain view, or not. Very important to remember...

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If you have a CPL, carry any way you like. Open, concealed, laying on the seat of your car, in the glove box or a grocery bag. it doesn't matter.

If you don't have a CPL, my first question is "Why not". Smile

Open carry is legal without a CPL but is a bunch of hassle. Driving anywhere is a major hassle.

Bottom line, get a CPL and carry any way you like.


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The reason I bring this up is because last night after I got off work I stopped at a 7-11. I had my weapon strapped to my side in an OWB holster. When I pulled up to the store there sat a sheriff vehicle and inside was the deputy shooting the shit with the man behind the counter. Now since I was unclear about legality of open carry I decided to unholster my weapon and leave it in my vehicle. Upon entering the store the deputy turned to look at me and spotted my holster and took a double take, yet said nothing. I felt my heart jump slightly. The deputy walked past me and then left the store, but remained in his vehicle outside. As I went to the counter with my Kit-Kat in hand (needed some sugar in my life) the man behind the counter spotted my holster and immediately his eyes got large and became very tense. I tried to clam him down with some easy conversation and smiles but he was very uneasy until I left the store. The deputy outside watched me until I got in my car and left, he then followed me down the road for about 2 miles then turned off. That was the end of my interesting night.


"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." -Thomas Jefferson
 
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The reason I bring this up is because last night after I got off work I stopped at a 7-11. I had my weapon strapped to my side in an OWB holster. When I pulled up to the store there sat a sheriff vehicle and inside was the deputy shooting the shit with the man behind the counter. Now since I was unclear about legality of open carry I decided to unholster my weapon and leave it in my vehicle. Upon entering the store the deputy turned to look at me and spotted my holster and took a double take, yet said nothing. I felt my heart jump slightly. The deputy walked past me and then left the store, but remained in his vehicle outside. As I went to the counter with my Kit-Kat in hand (needed some sugar in my life) the man behind the counter spotted my holster and immediately his eyes got large and became very tense. I tried to clam him down with some easy conversation and smiles but he was very uneasy until I left the store. The deputy outside watched me until I got in my car and left, he then followed me down the road for about 2 miles then turned off. That was the end of my interesting night.


Sounds like you played it right to me. A convenience store at night isn't where I'd test the waters, period, let alone with a sheriff's deputy inside. Gotta figure that if your empty holster gave both of the individuals some pause, it might have gotten really sticky if it had been "filled". Eek

I infer that you already have your CPL, JG. Otherwise, it would have been a bit late to ask about open-carry, if you know what I mean. Wink Personally, I agree with Brad 100% on his point of obtaining a CPL if only to cover those situations, i.e. traveling in a car, where open-carry just doesn't go far enough. There are other good reasons as I'm betting you are already aware.

The real issue here is that woefully few of the citizens of our state, including some of those in law enforcement, have a solid grasp of our handgun laws. I truly feel that the police, themselves, are in a position to act as a "front line" in educating the ignorant. Unrealistic? Probably but, from an admittedly biased/self-serving standpoint, I think our rights deserve to be defended on the streets by the police as well as in the courts.

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There is a lot of info on opencarry.org also.
 
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