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I will be relocating to Tennessee by the end of the month and I have some questions for SIGforum members that live in TN.
Are churches specified as a no-carry-zone? I looked on handgunlaw.us but I did not see anything that stated this. Also, handgunlaw.us says that you can not carry in an establishment that sells alcohol for consumption. I'm assuming this will apply even if you are not consuming alcohol, correct? Other than handgunlaw.us, are there any good sites (or other forums) that are specific to TN laws concerning carrying concealed handguns? This message has been edited. Last edited by: SchizoGuerrilla, |
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You cannot carry into a restaurant that serves alcohol, period. It sucks, but that's the way it is. As far as I know, churches are ok, which is good since nutcases tend to enjoy shooting up churches for some reason. Someone else correct me if I'm wrong on that.
Here you go: http://www.usacarry.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=111 Note the excerpt from TN code on the No Weapons postings. If they aren't SUBSTANTIALLY similar to that posting, you can ignore them. Guns with slashes through them, and "No Firearms" signs are not enough. I ignore those. I've lived here for about 20yrs and really like it, except for the heat. Where will you be coming to? --- Grayguns P226R .357SIG -- P226 W.German -- 590A1 -- M4gery -- Ruger Mark III --- -- Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past me I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. -- |
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A poster on another board I frequent stated that church carry was illegal in Tennessee in a post about the recent shooting in a TN church, but he didn't cite a source, so I don't know the real answer.
A closed mouth gathers no foot. Remember, in a life-or-death situation, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away. Ecclesiastes 8:11 (NIV) When the sentence for a crime is not quickly carried out, the hearts of the people are filled with schemes to do wrong. Barre |
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I carry at church every week, here in Memphis. We have a good group of brothers and sisters at our church that carry. My wife got her permit with several other of the ladies. Unless posted, I don't know why you can't carry at church... are y'all serving alcohol?
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I'm moving about 45 minutes north of Nashville, working in Springfield. It is a HUGE change from Detroit. I'm definitely looking forward to it. |
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 I didn't mean that the church would serve alcohol ... but that is pretty funny. |
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All of us "good" Lutherans drink wine at communion. Does that count?
 Thanks, ~Farther |
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#4 seems at odds with #8: 4. It is unlawful to carry a weapon into a meeting where the owner has posted prominent signs at all entrances banning weapon possession. 8. It is a violation of the law to carry where it is posted with this sign: PURSUANT TO § 39-17-1359, THE OWNER/OPERATOR OF THIS PROPERTY HAS BANNED WEAPONS ON THIS PROPERTY, OR WITHIN THIS BUILDING OR THIS PORTION OF THIS BUILDING. FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THIS PROHIBITION IS PUNISHABLE AS A CRIMINAL ACT UNDER STATE LAW AND MAY SUBJECT THE VIOLATOR TO A FINE OF NOT MORE THAN FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS ($500). The wording must be substantially similar. A sign with a picture of a handgun with a slash through it does not count." I can't imagine why you'd want to do business with an establishment that even attempted to bar you from lawfully carrying a pistol. SchizoGuerrilla- Welcome to Tennessee, from a fellow Damn Yankee Transplant. You'll like it here. It's different, in a very good way.  |
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I'm taking my info directly from the TN Code, found here.
If you go to 39-17-1359 in the TN Code, it will explain how the postings must be organized:
While #4 is correct, it just doesn't tell the whole story. They should have combined #4 and #8.
Sometimes I just don't have much of a choice because they have something I need. Then, it is nice to know I can ignore their incorrect postings. The Coolsprings Galleria is an example. They have those "Rules of Conduct" signs. They are in tiny print, at very few of the entrances, and have wording nowhere near similar to that in the TN code prohibiting weapons. If you go in through a dept. store, you may never see the signs. Hence, I carry in the mall when I need to go there. --- Grayguns P226R .357SIG -- P226 W.German -- 590A1 -- M4gery -- Ruger Mark III --- -- Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past me I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. -- |
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I think you'll enjoy living here. Welcome. |
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Yes you can carry in churches, as I do and as I know a preacher or two that does as well - concealed I might add.
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Thanks everyone for the info and for the warm welcome.
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What church do you go to? Sigmund Freud: "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." Sig 226r 357sig Browning BuckMark Remington 870 Ruger 10/22 |
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I'm just north of Detroit at the moment as well, but will be returning to live in middle Tennessee next Spring.
The place where alcohol has been consumed has been mentioned. Other differences = hospitals and movie theaters are ok unless posted with a specific sign at all entrances in a size that is plainly visible. Second catch that is different than MI - no carry in a public park, recreation center/area, playground, civic center, etc. that's operated by state or local government. ^---- I hate that one, and if they ever change the National Park rules, that one still keeps you from carrying in the national park area of the Smokies in TN |
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And Natchez Trace Parkway. |
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Welcome to Tennessee!
As already stated carry is pretty much OK everywhere except resturants that serve alcohol for consumption on premises, State parks or rec areas, schools, or places posted by the owners. As far as I know churches are OK, at least they are not prohibited by State law, although they might be posted by the church itself. I've never run across a no carry sign on a church. Note that we have been trying to get the laws changed for carry in resturants that serve and parks for some time but we do have a vocal contingent of lawmakers from the Memphis area that are rabidly anti-gun. Just remember that you should get involved in getting the laws changed when you get here. Until it changes I spend my dining dollars in Kentucky, where they don't descriminate against us, even if the resturant serves alcohol, and I make sure that resturant owners in TN know why I don't spend my money with them. The good thing is Springfield is close enough to KY that you can enjoy a good meal out and still carry, you just can't drink yourself. Nashville is a good city with plenty to do but resturants with alcohol are a no go. |
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Sounds like a situation where #8 was added later to clarify #4, but they just left #4 in as it was, too. Texas law does this all the time, which can make some things interesting when people don't read an entire law section (like clause (i) which negates (b)(4),(b)(5),(b)(6), and(c), unless certain conditions are met. No one reads past clause (c) and says they're always illegal ).A closed mouth gathers no foot. Remember, in a life-or-death situation, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away. Ecclesiastes 8:11 (NIV) When the sentence for a crime is not quickly carried out, the hearts of the people are filled with schemes to do wrong. Barre |
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I've read that carrying is illegal in TN wherever an admission fee is required for entry which would include sports venues, movie theaters, zoos, county fairs.......
morris barocas |
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Not correct. TN is pretty easy to understand. It has to be posted (might I add correctly posted. If the signage iss incorrect it is invalid), can't serve alcohol for on site consumption, and can't carry on school property (you can have it in the car). Everything else is fine. Living in Springfield you will be by one of the Premier shops around, Guns & Leather! best range anywhere BTW. Enjoy. |
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There is also no requirement to notify a police officer during a stop like in MI.
--- Grayguns P226R .357SIG -- P226 W.German -- 590A1 -- M4gery -- Ruger Mark III --- -- Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past me I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. -- |
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