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Here's the situation. "I" below actually refers to someone else, but it's easier to write in the first person.

I am a resident of New Mexico.
I do not have any concealed carry permits.
I want to go to Arizona, take a class, and get a non-resident Arizona permit.

QUESTION: Can I legally carry in New Mexico (my state of residence) with only a non-resident Arizona permit?

I've looked thru handgunlaw.us and even the NM statutes (z-z-z-z-z-z, dry and boring), and it's not addressed that I can discern.




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Posts: 2290 | Location: Carlsbad NM/ Augusta GA | Registered: July 15, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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You sit down and read your state's law on concealed carry or ask your State Police. There are states out there that don't allow a resident of theirs to use non-res permit since many that can't get their home state permit will go to the next state over. Chris
 
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http://handgunlaw.us/documents...ntPermits.pdf#page17

Looks like yes. Scroll up to AZ non-res permit.
 
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As mentioned just above- yes. At the present time.

You do not need to go to AZ and take a class for the AZ license, although that's what I did some years ago when the AZ license system was in the process of being changed. All you need to do, and this is all on the AZ DPS website, is take a hunter safety class here in NM, or an NRA- approved firearms safety class. That will satisfy the requirements for an AZ license.

https://www.azdps.gov/services/public/cwp

Look for "N" for qualifications here:

https://www.azleg.gov/viewdocu...gov/ars/13/03112.htm

You can do it all by mail- they have generally been very quick to process and turn the applications around as well.

I do recommend though, as a NM resident you should have a license issued from this state. One reason I say this is the NM powers that be have been known to change their reciprocity allowances, if you would, from other states. It is entirely possible that at some future point they may see the AZ license system as not being up to par and may cancel reciprocity.


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From what I've read, both at handgunlaw.us and the NM statutes, the "letter of the law" says yes, I can do that. But using the analogy of drivers' licenses, if I live in NM, but have a CO DL, I'm "legal", because there's reciprocity. But they really want you to transfer your DL to NM. Same with license plates. So I'm surprised there isn't something similar in the statutes for CCW.

And to clarify, I do have a NM CCW, with non-resident AZ obtained as described above. My GF, her sister and mom want to go to AZ to do this. It's kind of a family bonding thing for them, I'm just researching if it's copacetic. If so, they should have a good time doing it. It just seems odd to me.




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That's cool. Actually I do think it's a good thing to go and do the class. It's half the time required for NM, and it was a good instruction session. I did mine in Holbrook because it was the closest I could find at the time.


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I’d think it makes the most sense to get the home State permit 1st, as posted.
 
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I don't disagree, but try telling that to her!




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In thinking about this some more, for NM residents I just don't see any advantage to doing it out of state.

If they want a bonding trip experience, suggest they come up to Santa Fe. There are plenty of good places to stay and other things to do/see, lots of good places to eat, and I can make a personal recommendation on instructors. One of them is a woman if that would work better for them.

That way, they stay in-state, have a good time, and work with a known good instructor.


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I would say no. NM is much like Kalif, they do NOT recognize ANY nonres permits. So go get your NM permit.


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A non res permit is diff than a res permit for reciprocity.


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Although it is old information, you will need to keep track of any new legislation:

According to the NM DPS site:

https://www.dps.nm.gov/concealed-carry-faqs

Is my out-of-state permit valid in place of a NM concealed carry license when I move to/live in New Mexico?

As of December 2008, the answer is “yes” (as long as it is from a state that NM recognizes). However, there may soon be legislation passed requiring NM residents who want to carry concealed to obtain a NM concealed carry license.
 
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Hate to say it, but she is set on going to AZ with her mom and sis. Good info, I agree with getting a resident permit (I have one), but this is more about doing something with family than the permit itself.

In all reality, she probably won't carry much anyway.




Thus the metric system did not really catch on in the States, unless you count the increasing popularity of the nine-millimeter bullet.
- Dave Barry
 
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Originally posted by fredj338:
I would say no. NM is much like Kalif, they do NOT recognize ANY nonres permits. So go get your NM permit.


I do not believe this to be true. I do not recall any stat, rule or regulation to this effect. Can you point me to a source?


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Found an answer in the NM Concealed Carry Booklet - the short answer is now NO - New Mexico residents cannot use it in NM. You can, however, use the out of state permit as a basis to get a NM permit without additional training.

https://dps.nm.gov/templates/g...oklet%20FILLABLE.pdf



10.8.2.29 (H) No reciprocity shall be afforded to a license issued by another state to a New Mexico resident.
 
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SigSAC, thanks for that info. Intuitively, that's what I would have thought. They are still going - I encouraged them to, as GF needs and wants bonding time. Her sister is now mad at me though, I think. Kind of a kill the messenger response. Oh well....




Thus the metric system did not really catch on in the States, unless you count the increasing popularity of the nine-millimeter bullet.
- Dave Barry
 
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Originally posted by SigSAC:
10.8.2.29 (H) No reciprocity shall be afforded to a license issued by another state to a New Mexico resident.


Thanks for the clarification. I knew they'd do that sooner or later. Good to know, glad to stand corrected.


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Here in Louisiana if you're a Louisiana resident and want to CC you have to get a Louisiana permit we don't have non resident permits.
We used to except a non resident permits like a non resident Florida that some of our La resident used to get. La change the law and if you're one of us you have to have our permit.

We do honor resident and non resident permits from states we have reciprocity with


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Makes no sense... to try and make things more difficult. 'They' make it hard enough as it is. Get your state's permit... then worry about AZ later.....
 
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If it's all about a family thing, why don't hrr NM relatives come over to AZ to take the course with your wife/girlfriend?
 
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