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A) Will you carry it?
B) Can you shoot it, accurately?
C) How effective is the caliber? If it’s a 22 magnum, but you can shoot it well, it’s better than a hand cannon which you never practice with because it hurts too much
Ruger makes a nice +1 extension for the LCP. I'm on a smart phone but not smart enough to post a link.
I don't carry .380 ACP anymore because it didn't make sense when 9mm platforms were similar in size and offered better ballistics.
However, when I did, they were always loaded with FMJs for the various reasons stated in the linked comments, but primarily, inadequate penetration of most JHP rounds.
You asked him in 2014, but he still referred you to a file/document from 2000. 17 or 18 years old.... bullets are better now..
I had a similar question a year or so ago and this helps connect a few dots on understanding what manufacturers are are trying to achieve w/ each load.
Some of them have to be matched w/ the gun. Poor performance in one gun doesn't mean it should be discounted in others.
I used to have a link that was from the El Paso Times that reported in 2011 a retired Mexican cop was ambushed in his home by 4 armed cartel gang members wearing body armor and carrying AK47's. He killed 3 of the 4 BG's with headshots using only his lowly 380 pistol. Remember it is not the size of the DOG, but the size of the FIGHT in the dog that will win. God Bless
"Always legally conceal carry. At the right place and time, one person can make a positive difference."
Under duress and when the adrenaline flows, you’re lucky to score half the rounds you send down range. This is where the 380 shines. Light recoil and from a good pistol, it can perform. I have a Glock 42 which has proven to be both accurate and reliable & partner it with Hornady critical defense ammo. A winning combination. It hides quite well in Galco classic lite shoulder holster.
”The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.”
امّا شما مشخص خواهد شد كه با همه شما را ملاقات کنند
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I carry a P238 all the time. I can put all 7 rounds on paper in a very short amount of time and within a 4 inch circle at 20 feet. I love the little .380. I have often wondered if it would have enough fire power too. But I determined that for where I usually hang out, there is little chance I will ever find out. Every time I have had someone tell me the .380 is not powerful enough, I ask them if I can test the theory on them and they always decline...
Do, Or do not. There is no try.
I'm well aware of who he is, but you didn't address Augen's point about the XTP. Doc Robert's post was from 2012 and true then. Now, we have a handful of .380 loads that will both penetrate 12" and expand even through 4 layers of denim. No, they don't penetrate or expand as well as 9mm, .40 or .45, but they are a lot better than the options in 2012...
I don't own a .380 so I'm certainly not defending it from a bias, but with the right load it can be a decent choice.
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