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If you regularly carry, how much training have you done toward proficiency in combat or defensive handgun?

I've had only an intro class at what was then SIGARMS Academy. It looks like it might have been a combination of what is covered in Handgun 101 and 102 now. It did include some shooting training in addition to dealing with other non-shooting questions, introduction and information about CCW. However, I don't really feel it's enough if I'm serious about carrying.

Do you think Defensive Handgun competition is good training?

I guess in the end you can't train too much.
 
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Quite a bit since I’ve been off the street. I’m in IT now, so I don’t train like I used to. I’ve been taking monthly 1 hour defensive training courses and my local shop. If nothing else, just to keep me current on any new regulations and to help sharpen the little things. I’m sitting in the lobby right now waiting on a class to start. Cafe is full, so I’m enjoying sitting under a big AC unit.

They have some interesting home defense classes using simunition that are hands on I’m thinking about taking too.

I’ve always felt, you owe it to yourself to train if you carry. I have friends that took the 8 hour course, loaded their weapons and probably haven’t fired a shot in the 10 years they’ve had their permit.
 
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I've taken two basic beginners courses on concealed carry but mainly I read a lot, watch videos, and practice drawing from concealment with snap caps or an airsoft replica of my carry gun. My goals are training for a safe draw with emphasis on trigger discipline and getting hits as fast as I can.

My future goals are to attend a class or 4 that uses shooting simulators to present shoot/no shoot scenarios in order to get my mind familiar with making fast decisions during the draw and continue with USPSA and IDPA for basic gun handling and shooting while moving practice.


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"If you regularly carry, how much training have you done toward proficiency in combat or defensive handgun?"

MANY courses over the last 30 years.

"Do you think Defensive Handgun competition is good training?"

I have shot lots of different types of competition over the years, while I think that it is not "good training" per say, I do think that after one is trained, it can be used for practice... weapons handling, shooting from various positions, shooting while moving... etc...

But one must remember why is he "competing", lots of people start out to work on their defensive pistol skills - then realize that they don't like seeing their name on the bottom of the standings, so they start "playing the game".

Nothing wrong with "playing the game" lots of people want to shoot USPSA, IDPA, NRA Action Shooting, 3 Gun just to compete, to see how good they can be. So they put away the daily carry gun and iwb holster and strap on the competing rig and super blaster and have at it.

Its all in what you want to accomplish.


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Posts: 1230 | Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA | Registered: June 08, 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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SigWolf,

You can't get any better than the Sig Academy and the extra benefit for you is it is not that far away. What I would actually suggest you consider is a course given at the Sig Academy by a private instructor.. Todd Rassa. Trust me you will not regret it... I've taken his force on force class twice and it will enlighten you to the potentials for bad in the real world and how you actually should respond.... I will say it is a whole different world when someone is actually shooting at you and you have a half second to react.

My second suggestion if you could manage it is the 4 day defensive hand gun class given by Front Sight out in Nevada.... this in reality will bring you to a level of 'discipline' with a handgun that you could never image. I have taken this class 3 times and each time I actually improve... the folks I go with have actually gone more times than that. If you look into this class don't get turned off by the cost of the class... there is a simple way to get around it....just ask me... but the reality is if you go to the class for 'free' you will be sending them money afterwards because of what you got out of it.
 
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Think about how many days of training you took when you turned 16 so that you could properly employ the world's most often used deadly weapon and one that's in just about everybody's home - your car.

Sig Academy offers four foundational pistol courses , handgun 101, 102, 103 & 104. I skipped 101 so I can't speak for it but the other 3 courses are everything a defensive shooter should know. Handgun 104 is now offered in a 2-day format so that they can cover more defensive shooting techniques in greater depth. I'd say those four courses plus the 2-day concealed carry course (7 days of training) would be a good minimum for those wishing to competently and safely carry.

Other course providers closer to your home likely offer similar training, so check those out if a trip to Epping, NH is not feasible. There are good instructors in most locales, so finding one shouldn't be an issue if you take the time to do proper research.

If you want to go beyond the minimum and be better prepared then a Close Quarters Pistol class concentrating on shooting from zero - 3 yards along with movement and modified draws would be an excellent follow on to all of the above.

A course in your home state's gun laws and deadly force laws is also something every CCW holder should take. CCW holders are responsible for every bullet they fire so knowing when it's appropriate to fire and when it's not could turn out to be the difference between prison (for you), a no-shoot and a legitimate shoot. Of course the best outcome is developing the situational awareness to avoid these situations whenever possible.

It'd also be a good idea to take refresher courses every year along with dry fire practice at home where you practice drawing from concealment. Defensive shooting is a rapidly progressing field so what was state of the art 5 years ago is likely no longer best practice, hence the need for follow up training at regular intervals. The pistols, holsters, ammunition, sights and movement techniques used in defensive shooting are progressing at a fast pace thanks to the increasing popularity of competition shooting.

Do all of the above and you'll be shooting more accurately, be a faster shooter, and confident, safe and more situationally aware CCW permit holder.

For those of us who are trained, we all know CCW holders who are not trained and would appreciate
our guidance in recommending good courses offered by qualified instructors locally. Reach out to these folks and let them know of the training opportunities available nearby.
 
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I am not crazy about seeing my name at the lower third of the match results. I shoot one steel challenge a month. That is all I can afford. I try to concentrate on the guns that I carry. When the R.O. asks me if I have enough ammo in the gun after a string, I tell him that I do not care. I like to practice reloads. I am not good enough to place in the top 1/3. So, my score is not really important to me. I want to get better with what I carry and still have fun.



But one must remember why is he "competing", lots of people start out to work on their defensive pistol skills - then realize that they don't like seeing their name on the bottom of the standings, so they start "playing the game".

Nothing wrong with "playing the game" lots of people want to shoot USPSA, IDPA, NRA Action Shooting, 3 Gun just to compete, to see how good they can be. So they put away the daily carry gun and iwb holster and strap on the competing rig and super blaster and have at it.

Its all in what you want to accomplish.[/QUOTE]
 
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I was in law enforcement for a long time. I took every firearms class I could. I've take numerous CCW classes from Sig, TDI, etc. About once every couple of years, I go back and take a basic handgun/rifle course.
 
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I try to take at least two 'formal' classes a year. I also make every range session a training session where I work on honing my skills.


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