Yea I still like fast and loud and raw. I was in a band from st louis called White Pride. No one could figure us out. It was a load. We shared bills with bad brains and the Circle Jerks. One time I was in portland OR visiting a friend who just got out of the Marines and we were driving around listening to Maximum Rock and Roll. Jello Biafra hosted it. He introduces one of our songs that I had a lot to do with(most of out stuff was written as a group) and says "I don't care about their political stance but they are one kickass band". Blew me away as I didn't think any one remembered. The song was called "Domino Theory" One of our slow songs LOL. We wrote about 60 recorded 14 and released 12. were in touch with skrewdriver, the four skins and the decendents. Milo was cool. I always liked Lee Ving from Fear too. What a nut.
Joey Ramone too. Johnny Thunders, what a shame.
Live fast die young leave a good lookin corpse. no one told Keith Richard or me for that matter

Punk is too pigeonholed musically to stay interesting very long...fast tempos, even beats, predictable song structure...angst! I began to search for bands like Bad Religion, Bad brains, Black flag, social distortion when I got bored with grunge in high school(way back in 95'). And then I was the throwback punker who said anything new is shit. I liked the raw, old stuff...Slayer, testament, megadeth, and early metallica were right up there too...

But then punk and metal got boring too... so I started listening to a lot of prog. Tool, dream theatre, and Ween in particular, then Primus, then older and more psychedelic stuff like Jethro tull, King Crimson, Yes, rush...

Now I try to find music that blends elements of all of them. Now it's all about the mars volta, between the buried and me, protest the hero, and the fall of troy...Noise...all of it...and it makes me feel good...

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Originally posted by DoctorSolo:
Punk is too pigeonholed musically to stay interesting very long...

Can't agree with that at all, Shellac alone is enough to keep it interesting.

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Originally posted by BillF:
When they diluted Punk into New Wave so they could play it on the radio it almost killed Punk Rock off.

Bill

not sure where you were in the early 80's, but New Wave was a rarity on the radio in my area, (not a slam but a fact!)

one AM station, that was limited in range, and gone by 81,
one college station, with even more limited area

and one AOR station that only played Elvis Costello, and then only a couple of songs,

however

many punk bands toured in this area,

black flag, loose nut tour 84 (great show, still have the t shirt!)
dead kennedy's in 83 (I think), another great show

minutemen opened for REM, in 87 (IIRC)

and probably more that I missed,

They simple did not play Punk on the radio in El Paso except for a Ramones song once in a while. It went from Disco to New Wave. The radio stations down here have always been behind the times anyway.

Bill

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Originally posted by DoctorSolo:
Punk is too pigeonholed musically to stay interesting very long...

Can't agree with that at all, Shellac alone is enough to keep it interesting.

I'm just not cool enough to "get" Albini... :P

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Originally posted by oddball:
Note- John Doe on bass and vocals was the bartender in "Roadhouse" w/ Patrick Swayze. The gig paid for his house in Bakersfield .

He also played the drummer in George Strait's movie "Pure Country".

You guys are bringing back lots of memories, I heard X on the radio the other day, and I was the only one of my coworkers who knew who they were. .

I liked Stiff Little Fingers.

Alternative Ulster

-Tom

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Originally posted by Sevo1967:
You guys are bringing back lots of memories, I heard X on the radio the other day, and I was the only one of my coworkers who knew who they were. .

Oh the boy-crush I had on Exene. I didn't get to see them until the mid-eighties. Good show, but for some reason I remember the opening band Lone Justice more.

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I liked Stiff Little Fingers.

Alternative Ulster

-Tom

Suspect Device!!! Yeah, lots of memories.

Punk's not dead

I couldn't believe Rancid was still around, but the new CD is pretty good.

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I remember the opening band Lone Justice more.

With Maria McKee? Why am I struggling to place those two bands together?

I saw X in '93 with Cherry Poppin' Daddies, Grouvie Goulies, and Rancid.

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I remember the opening band Lone Justice more.

With Maria McKee? Why am I struggling to place those two bands together?

I saw X in '93 with Chery Poppin' Daddies, Grouvie Goulies, and Rancid.

I am a little foggy when it comes to the 80's. I swear it was X and Lone Justice. I'll have to make a couple calls to old friends to be sure. It was definitely before Lone Justice released their first album.

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Originally posted by Heiduke:
Punk's not dead

I couldn't believe Rancid was still around, but the new CD is pretty good.

I dig Rancid, would love to see them live. Let's Go and Out Come The Wolves are great albums.

However, I believe they are a bit more melodic than the typical sound of punk rock.

"Rude girl Carol was the mini skirt girl
my blurry vision saw nothin' wrong"

Another great punk-rock-melodic band is The Offspring. Smash is a top 50 album for sure.

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However, I believe they are a bit more melodic than the typical sound of punk rock.

Check out Rancid's early stuff. It's much "meaner."

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Come on guys... you know

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...WSjg&feature=related

Oh hell yes. Still one of the greatest bands of all time.

Saw the Bad Brains in Charlotte NC at Viceroy Park in 1982, the one of the first punk/newwave concert halls in the area (all props to the Milestone).

I went about for two months telling people stories around the most amazing thing ever.....OMG they were all that and a dollar bar o' soap...

I have the Hard-Ons palying now.(Girl in a Sweater)
Aussie punk!

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However, I believe they are a bit more melodic than the typical sound of punk rock.

Check out Rancid's early stuff. It's much "meaner."

You mean Operation Ivy, DHC and what not or the self titled debut album before Let's Go?

I would agree that Rancid and Let's Go are "meaner" than their subsequent stuff but they still have more melody than the majority of "punk rock".

They shouldn't even be considered just punk though either they are ska+punk+alt.

I don't follow them too much anymore but, do you think "Last One To Die" is a poke at the other punk bands?

Give it up for Iggy and the Stooges:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...j_Jw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...xvoI&feature=related

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You mean Operation Ivy, DHC and what not or the self titled debut album before Let's Go?

I mean their self titled album, and even the EP before it. It was a bit less polished. The first time I saw Rancid was when they opened for Inside/Out, Alloy and Iceburn. Obviously they outlasted those bands.

Op. Ivy was better than Rancid (my opinion.) Though I really don't count DHC because Matt wasn't with them for long. But- Oh my, did I drool over Karina and Elyse in the early 90s. I'm not sure what they look like now. Google time!