After a year of looking at the DCS icon on my laptop's screen, I've taken the first steps to building a new desktop system.
This time, I'm gonna play a little with RGB and AIO cooling. Anyone else 'roll their own'? Wanna share pics?
I'm not really techy enough to get into the finer points of my build. Goal is to have an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 as the GPU. AMD CPU, so I can make the most of this new PCIe 4.0 card.
Last bit should be a VR headset, like HP's Reverb G2 (though by the time I'm done, it'll probably be G4 )
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The artist formerly known as AllenInWV
January 02, 2021, 07:19 PM
xantom
Hey! I just built this about 2 months ago. I sold my old unit, and kept the 1080Ti that was in it. Still waiting to get a Rog Strix RTX 3080. I have custom cable sleeves but haven't attempted the install yet. Good luck with your build, post some pics!
EVGA Super Nova 750 Fractal Design Define 7 ASUS ROG Strix Z490-A Intel Core i9-10850KA Corsair Hydro Series H100i Crucial Ballistix RGB 3200 MHz 64GB Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 1TB EVGA 1080Ti for now... Win 10 Pro
"We've done four already, but now we're steady..."
January 03, 2021, 01:21 AM
PakRatJR
I am still trying to figure out how to get some good pictures of mine. Built back in April, upgraded from a 1700X with 16GB and 1080TI SLI.....on water...
Phanteks Enthoo Pro with glass side AMD 3900X overclocked Crosshair 8 Hero 32GB Trident Z Neo 2 MSI 2080TI SLI overclocked 500GB 970 EVO NVME boot drive 6TB WD Black HD for storage EK Water loop EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G+ Win 10 Pro And 2 27" Asus monitors at 2560x1440
I am planning on changing the rear case fan at some point for a RGB, and the only "complaint" I have is I don't have any way to light the CPU block
My keyboard and mouse also have RGB...sort of...but my "desk" is a mess and I don't think you really want to see that lol
January 03, 2021, 07:09 AM
AllenInAR
Gigabyte AORUS X570 Elite AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 2x Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 1TB EVGA Super Nova 850 GS Fractal Design Meshify C
I have a CableMod kit coming for the PSU, and some heat sinks for the M.2 SSDs. Obviously no graphics card yet and I'm still debating RAM. How do you like the Corsair AiO? I was thinking either it or one of the NZXT Krakens. I need to get the case to figure out if I can front mount the radiator with hoses down before I can really decide I think.
It was beautiful but the GPU wasn't getting enough air and during DCS sessions it would hit 81C and the fans would go to full speed. It was annoyingly loud.
For version 2, I moved it to an Ncase M1 and built built a custom cooling loop using a single 240mm radiator. It's a little bit bigger than the Ghost S1 case but the cooling and noise performance exceeded my expectations.
I got the idea from the Youtube Channel "Optimum Tech". Essentially, it's his build without the second bottom mounted radiator. I'm getting excellent performance out of the single radiator setup.
Instead of using the combo pump block, I used the external reservoir/pump that became available later:
January 03, 2021, 11:07 AM
1gkek
[QUOTE]Originally posted by AllenInWV: ... How do you like the Corsair AiO? /QUOTE]
I used a corsair AIO in the first revision of my build for about 6 months. It worked very well and was quiet. No mess no fuss. My first case was very small and I wasn't completely happy with the temps on air cooling. The corsair solved it. Would recommend.
January 03, 2021, 11:22 AM
1gkek
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Originally posted by AllenInWV:
Last bit should be a VR headset, like HP's Reverb G2 (though by the time I'm done, it'll probably be G4 )
I got my first VR headset, a Reverb G2, back in November. I pre-ordered it on a whim in June (peak lockdown) after watching MRTV's preview on youtube. I couldn't be happier. In fact, after playing DCS exclusively in VR for the last 6 weeks I tried to play it on my (excellent) 34" widescreen 1440p monitor. It was terrible, I can't go back from VR.
It's not all peas and carrots, though. The visual quality in VR isn't as good as on a monitor. On my monitor I can play with everything on high at 1440P and it looks cinematic. Simply gorgeous. I was using head tracking and I was having a great time. In VR you have to turn the settings down to get good frame rates. Though initially disappointing, the spatial awareness in VR is so superb that I don't care that it doesn't look cinematic any more.
The buttons are *real*. The ground rushes up at you. When you roll and dive your body expects you to be moving. It's crazy how good the VR experience is. I fly mainly the Viper and the Huey. In the Huey it took a week and half to get over the real motion sickness I was getting in VR. In the Viper when I set the autopilot and start a long flight I keep trying to rest my arm on the cockpit frame, like an open car window, because it's *right there*.
You'll have to do some tweaking in DCS to make it work well in VR. I tried DCS without optimization when I first got the headset and it was not good. This is the optimization guide I used and the results were fantastic.
The Meshify C is a nice case for its size. A 240 AIO will fit front mount BUT...
Hoses down would be ok as long as you have the hose length, but what you will most likely end up running into is with the thickness of the rad and fans. With the 30 series GPU you would need to find some slim fans and mount them to the front outside of the case. I haven't seen much on the new Radeon card sizes, but what I have seen, most of them are not really any smaller.
Even then it would still be a darn snug fit and you will most likely not have room for the hoses to fit between the rad and GPU. The hoses would need to be up, and with the slim fans you might end up not really getting the best cooling you would need.
Thanks for that info. I was wondering if the RTX 3080 would fit with a front-mounted radiator. I may grab a NZXT H510 from Amazon and do some measuring. Looks like it can handle a bigger GPU (381mm vs 315mm). That extra length may allow for the rad.
As for the DCS side, I have a lot to do. I picked up some WW2 stuff from the holiday sales. May start with those before tackling a jet.
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The artist formerly known as AllenInWV
January 03, 2021, 02:35 PM
xantom
If you were asking abou my Corsair AIO. It's my 3rd Corsiar AIO going back to 2011. They have all worked well for me. I rarely OC my builds anymore, and until I have the need probably won't. The last Corsair AIO unit I bought though had some real shitty fans and I ended up shelling out another $80 for Noctua fans. During gaming the fans sounded like a Harrier jump jet was landing in my living room. This iteration is much improved over that cooler(2016). Not silent but tolerable in game.
"We've done four already, but now we're steady..."
January 03, 2021, 02:38 PM
AllenInAR
Not gonna lie....I am AiOing purely for aesthetics.
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The artist formerly known as AllenInWV
January 03, 2021, 02:45 PM
xantom
"We've done four already, but now we're steady..."
January 03, 2021, 04:04 PM
AllenInAR
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Originally posted by PakRatJR: The Meshify C is a nice case for its size. A 240 AIO will fit front mount BUT...
I guess the biggest determination would be what GPU you end up getting, with the length of that being the only issue.
January 03, 2021, 05:48 PM
Lord Vaalic
You guys are pretty amazing, some pretty cool builds.
I wish I still had the knowledge to do something like this
Don't weep for the stupid, or you will be crying all day
January 03, 2021, 05:57 PM
AllenInAR
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Originally posted by Lord Vaalic:
I wish I still had the knowledge to do something like this
Seriously, if I can assemble one, you can. Now, if you're talking about overclocking it or whatever, I'm lost. But planning a build, getting the parts and assembling....pretty easy.
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The artist formerly known as AllenInWV
January 03, 2021, 06:33 PM
xantom
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Originally posted by AllenInWV:
quote:
Originally posted by Lord Vaalic:
I wish I still had the knowledge to do something like this
Seriously, if I can assemble one, you can. Now, if you're talking about overclocking it or whatever, I'm lost. But planning a build, getting the parts and assembling....pretty easy.
Yep it's pretty easy these days. If you are seriously interested I'm sure a few of us here could help you out with a build.
"We've done four already, but now we're steady..."
Yeah, and looks like the Founder's Edition is one of the smaller ones. Guess I'll do a top-mount instead. I just ordered fans, AiO (all EK-Varder stuff) and some of that G.Skill Trident Z Neo RAM. Now I just have to wait on a GPU.
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The artist formerly known as AllenInWV
January 04, 2021, 06:37 AM
xantom
Micro Center had 3090's last week, but I just can't justify $1700
"We've done four already, but now we're steady..."
January 04, 2021, 08:21 AM
joel9507
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Originally posted by AllenInWV: Goal is to have an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 as the GPU.
Not to burst the bubble, but try to find one of those as a separate card. Unobtanium.
System builders have snapped most of them up and put them on pre-built systems.
Oh, you can get them now....for a big multiple of their suggested (and eventual) prices. Do you want/need a $699 card for $1500 now, knowing it will be back down to $699 when the factory catches up with demand?
TL: DR - Search "RTX 3080" and what you will find is 'out of stock', pre-built systems, and ridiculous prices.
I think you have three, maybe four choices: 1) delay the project till 3080s are in stock; 2) change your target to a different GPU; 3) bite the bullet and pay 2-3x value; or 4) grab one of those pre-built systems.
Sorry to be Debbie Downer. I have been in the market for a 3070 and have watched the same dynamic. I'm holding off till the factory catches up with demand, and market prices drop to steady state.