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I’ve watched the Ferrari incident about a dozen times now and it still isn’t clear to me who drove into who. Aside from that, Vettel looks bored with driving to me. Doesn’t seem to have the killer instinct he used to drive with when he was at RBR.
 
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The camera looking straight down the section of the track showed Leclerc driving absolutely straight and Vettel drifting left into him. Vettel claimed HE was driving straight and Leclerc squeezed him. No way. I wonder if Seb will ever admit it, even after looking at the tape.

I don’t know what’s next for Ferrari. Someone needs to get slapped down. They are going to have to tell the drivers that they’ll control the race from the pit wall from now on, and if either driver disobeys any team order, they’ll be sitting out the next race. If Binotto can’t take firm control, maybe he needs to go.


That's what I saw too.
The view looking back up the straight shows the center line and Leclerc was aligned on it the whole time. Vettel went to his left and hit him then went back to his right for the next corner, not knowing his tire had been cut.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKYB4fDz5Vc
 
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I put it on Vettel but man, such a slight move. Amazing there would be such damage to both cars.

Early in the race, Leclerc from back in the field was in almost identical position to Norris except the positions were reversed from the Vettel incident. Leclerc came hard to the center, Norris had to lurch left to avoid contact. There were several similar moments with other drivers throughout the race and other lurches to avoid contact.

Leclerc gave Vettel just enough room for the outside move, SV tried to find more space for the next turn. Leclerc gave nothing, they both lost. Vettel was presumptuous, Leclerc hard headed. With fresher tires, Leclerc needed some patience, plenty of opportunities were waiting. A battle of wills with some red mist in the red cars.

Ignoring the consequences, nothing as inept as Ricciardo on (I forget) early and Hammy on Albon late.

I'm amused that Max could pass Hammy in such massive fashion for the lead/win, Lew stumbles through Albon shortly thereafter in an ill-advised attempt to regain some dignity. Great that LH owned up but a real shame for Albon and that missed podium.

Whatever else, Interlagos is maybe my favorite track. Fast, great atmosphere and a history of action-packed, memorable racing. Best race of the year? I'm no judge, I was worked up throughout but some of that came from me hurling invectives at the announce team.

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Agreed, Vettel moved over & it looked like Leclerc made 2 moves to avoid (to the left).

Looked like a fairly insignificant touch, but wheel to wheel just enough to crack the suspension on Leclerc.




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I can't link it through my phone, but Red Bull released a video performing a pit stop in zero gravity that is pretty cool. I'll add the link tonight when I get home.




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I can't link it through my phone, but Red Bull released a video performing a pit stop in zero gravity that is pretty cool. I'll add the link tonight when I get home.





Link to original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVMICgfzICs




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They did two in a row last weekend in the race at under 1.9 seconds each.
That is impressive.

https://www.formula1.com/en/vi..._stop_in_Brazil.html
 
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Latifi confirmed in the 2nd Williams alongside Russell.




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So, what are your guesses for Bottas' finishing place?

Brand new PU, last race, can turn it up to 11 & push it. Does he make it on the podium?




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So, what are your guesses for Bottas' finishing place?

Brand new PU, last race, can turn it up to 11 & push it. Does he make it on the podium?


Top 6 for sure without any incidents. Likely top 3.
The Ferrari split tire strategy will be interesting. Charles needs to hold his place at the start. Vettel's head doesn't seem to be in the game this weekend.
 
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So, what are your guesses for Bottas' finishing place?

Brand new PU, last race, can turn it up to 11 & push it. Does he make it on the podium?


Top 6 for sure without any incidents. Likely top 3.
The Ferrari split tire strategy will be interesting. Charles needs to hold his place at the start. Vettel's head doesn't seem to be in the game this weekend.


I think in a clean eventless race, a podium is a stretch. He'll have his elbows out for sure & probably push harder than he would normally.




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Haven't watched the race yet, but saw the results.

80 days to winter testing....




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My favorite team to watch this year was easily McLaren. I don't think anybody can watch that team, and not think to themselves that those lads truly are team and friends simultaneously. I am overly impressed that Norris finished 11th for the year, and Sainz finished 6th.

My rookie of the year goes to Albon.

Most improved goes to LeClerc.

Best drive of the year goes to Hamilton for his performance in Abu Dhabi, with a close second to Verstappen in Austria.

My "in by a hair" award goes to Williams. Because of their singular point, it will earn them an additional $15 million. Without the point, they would forfeit being classified, meaning only 9 of the 10 teams would share payouts.

Most improved team is certainly Ferrari, but I can't help but wonder how many point they would have if they stopped being so Ferrari. Meaning they made so many mistakes this year.




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Great last race. Lots of midfield action.
So so close to the podium for Bottas. 0.9 was the last time gap I saw at the line.

106 days to lights out in Melbourne.




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Maybe I’m too much of a Debbie Downer, but I don’t have much confidence that 2020 is going to be much different than last six seasons. Until the rules change in 2021, I don’t think Mercedes is going to be seriously challenged by either Ferrari or Red Bull.
 
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With how much the Honda PU has improved, I can see RBR fighting for some wins in '20. Ferrari still improving.

I imagine the MBZ consistency will still be a huge benefit for them next year, but it will be more of a fight.

Hoping for a continuation of the great midfield fights we've had this season & for Williams to get some major improvement in the offseason.




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Maybe I’m too much of a Debbie Downer, but I don’t have much confidence that 2020 is going to be much different than last six seasons. Until the rules change in 2021, I don’t think Mercedes is going to be seriously challenged by either Ferrari or Red Bull.


Being negative about F1 is just common sense.




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Interesting tho mostly dull final race. Here's hoping Alonso is back in 2021!



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