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January 16, 2017, 04:25 PM
220-9er
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Finally some real news.
Bottas to Mercedes and Massa out of a real short retirement for a last year at Williams.
Bottas is getting the chance of a lifetime. Now he's got to perform.
Massa is getting another years paycheck. I hope it's not a big mistake. I doubt he needs the money that bad so I guess he really didn't want to quit just yet.

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January 16, 2017, 05:52 PM
Ripley
I have to think Bottas is a short term fix. Another year and better options should open up. Nothing against Bottas but I've never seen that much from him. At best I expect him to be a fairly reliable points getter.




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January 16, 2017, 08:41 PM
220-9er
A lot of people thought he was going to be a future star when he arrived in F1.
So far he has looked anywhere from so so to looking like he could make the break through. Unfortunately he hasn't had the car and team to make that happen.
He now has several years of experience under his belt and likely the best car on the grid. Now is the time to show what he's got.
This time next year we should have the answer.


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January 17, 2017, 01:35 PM
P250UA5
Hopefully it was the Williams car holding Bottas back, excited to see what he can do in a pack leading car.




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January 23, 2017, 03:58 PM
cjevans
... and Bernie is out. 40 years.
Now titled as 'Chairman Emeritus'.

Liberty appointed Chase Carey os CEO of F1.


I'm looking for some new changes to make the sport much improved and more watchable; and competitive.



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January 23, 2017, 06:19 PM
oilpatch29
Just a couple of my thoughts.

I not convinced the 2017 rule changes are going to facilitate the changes that people anticipate.

The bigger wider cars are theoretically 5-7 secs. a lap faster. We're going to a dramatic increase in qualifying speeds for sure. I don't think the FIA have allowed enough additional fuel to take full advantage of the increased grip over a full race distance.

The Mercedes domination will continue. The increase in drag/downforce from the larger tires and bodywork will only accentuate the Tristars power advantage.


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January 23, 2017, 10:52 PM
Ripley
quote:
Originally posted by oilpatch29:
The Mercedes domination will continue


That seems to be the conventional wisdom. I'm hoping for some real competition but not that optimistic. The new poohbahs can't be that thrilled.




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January 24, 2017, 09:11 AM
P250UA5
quote:
Originally posted by Ripley:
quote:
Originally posted by oilpatch29:
The Mercedes domination will continue


That seems to be the conventional wisdom. I'm hoping for some real competition but not that optimistic. The new poohbahs can't be that thrilled.


Likely, but the new 2017 regs may give a little shuffle to the order.
Also, McLaren's progress last season may put them at the front of the mid-field this year.

Hopefully Marussia Manor can get some backing & be on the grid again this year as well.




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January 24, 2017, 04:20 PM
SIGnified
Ross Braun ... huzzah!





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January 24, 2017, 08:43 PM
220-9er
Not sure what they expect him to do. New regulations this year and power trains locked in for several years.
The problem is not allowing much development so Mercedes likely will continue to lead with a large power advantage.
Hopefully Honda can make a big improvement this winter and the Red Bull's great aerodynamics can somewhat overcome the power deficit.
Ferrari is a real question mark. They seem to be going slightly backwards lately.


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January 26, 2017, 06:28 AM
valkyrie1
Renault supposedly has a redesigned engine, be nice to see them in the mix again.
January 26, 2017, 02:50 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by valkyrie1:
Renault supposedly has a redesigned engine, be nice to see them in the mix again.



IIRC, Msr. A. Newey said the new Tag Heuer was an improvement. Wink





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January 26, 2017, 05:18 PM
valkyrie1
lol.........
February 18, 2017, 10:59 PM
mutedblade
So, for a guy just looking to get into watching F1, when does the race season begin and typically what channels will I be able to watch it on?

Thanks


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February 19, 2017, 02:04 AM
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http://www.foxsports.com/motor/schedule?circuit=1


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February 19, 2017, 08:19 AM
220-9er
NBCSN has most.


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February 19, 2017, 08:25 AM
Ripley
quote:
Originally posted by mutedblade:
So, for a guy just looking to get into watching F1, when does the race season begin and typically what channels will I be able to watch it on?

Thanks


Probably the most active F1 forum --

http://forums.autosport.com/forum/2-racing-comments/

Eurocentric to be sure but that's fine. Like any other, you'll have to separate the wheat from the chaff, fun and infuriating.




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February 20, 2017, 09:07 AM
valkyrie1
Sauber just released a picture of their new entry. http://www.crash.net/f1/news/2...017-c36-ferrari.html
February 20, 2017, 09:57 AM
P250UA5
Loving the 2017 look.
The Williams FW40 is still drool-worthy in the Martini livery.

Williams FW40


Sauber C36





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February 20, 2017, 10:55 AM
mutedblade
That Williams car is stunning. I've watched F1 in passing and never really followed it but now I can't wait.


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