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| california tumbles into the sea |
Oldman's performance as WC surpasses Norman Stansfield and is not to be missed. I don't mind the inaccuracies as this is not a documentary, but a dramatization. And Ben Mendelsohn is near unrecognizeable as King George VI. I figure Joe Wright, a Brit, knew exactly what he was doing, and I pretty much automatically see whatever film he directs. | |||
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| I believe in the principle of Due Process  |
I won’t be seeing it as I dislike dramatizations that take liberties with the character and aura of the main participants. Look what Walt Disney did to David Crockett! Moreover, a great many dumbos will walk out of the theater with a erroneous idea about this Churchill fellow. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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| That rug really tied the room together.  |
The bolded quote gets me every time. Every time I hear it, every time I read it, I boast with pride, and maybe even shed a tear. God bless America. ______________________________________________________ Often times a very small man can cast a very large shadow | |||
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Very true! I wish theaters could be forced to distribute respected history books at the end of films like this and Oliver Stone's JFK. Even better, before the show begins! -------------------------- Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. -- H L Mencken I always prefer reality when I can figure out what it is. -- JALLEN 10/18/18 | |||
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| california tumbles into the sea |
There's always going to be those who won't take the time to learn the true history behind what is portrayed and dramatized. I'm about half way into the book MG34_Dan mentioned: A Man Called Intrepid, and it's a great read. While the film mentions the aircraft purchase and exchange at the Canadian border, the book completes the transaction. | |||
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Don't Panic |
I enjoyed the film a great deal. The theater was packed for an afternoon show - my buddy and I got the last two seats. I don't think anyone could come out of the movie thinking poorly of Mr. Churchill. I have read/studied a bunch about the military side but had no idea of the domestic politics side. | |||
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I went to the 0920 showing Saturday. I like it. _______________________________________________________ And no, junior not being able to hold still for 5 seconds is not a disability. | |||
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| I believe in the principle of Due Process |
They may well think, if at all, inaccurately. Few think ill of Davy Crockett, knowing only of the Walt Disney character. Crockett in real life was nothing like he was portrayed, but that would be hopelessly dull for TV. Same with Wyatt Earp, Elliot Ness, and other historic figures whose auras were confiscated for crass commercial purposes by entertainment producers. I prefer reality, when I can figure out what it is. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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I read “A Man Called Intrepid” many years ago. It was one of the best books on WWII I’ve ever read. Fascinating accounts of US and Britain secret efforts and the people behind those efforts. The CIA eventually was formed out of the American organization assembled during WWII. | |||
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| Don't Panic |
"Darkest Hour" was not billed as a documentary, and that, it definitely wasn't. Not sure that a hopelessly dull recitation of the facts would get people interested in Mr. Churchill, but this movie might. My interest in military history, and WWII in particular, was sparked by seeing "The Battle of the Bulge" when I was a kid. That movie - while enjoyable - was egregiously inaccurate. Since then, I've read a few hundred books on WWII - a fair few written by Mr. C. himself - and not a few contradict one another. Reality is out there, surely, but theatrical movies aren't a good place to expect to find it. | |||
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| I believe in the principle of Due Process |
Lured by this thread, I downloaded the sample, and have now downloaded the book. I was familiar with the events leading up to and the first months of war, Poland, Finland, Norway, but not this back story of why those were perhaps more important than ordinary military considerations let on. Thanks for the heads up. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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| Three Generations of Service  |
JAllen, you say you downloaded a sample. Link please? Be careful when following the masses. Sometimes the M is silent. | |||
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| I believe in the principle of Due Process |
Go to the book listing on Amazon.com. Click on “Look inside” in the left hand area by the picture of the book. Click on “Send this sample to my Kindle”. I use my iPad with Kindle app, but I expect it would work on the Kindle tablets, etc. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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| Three Generations of Service |
Got it, thanks! Be careful when following the masses. Sometimes the M is silent. | |||
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saw this last weekend Sat night, we were in northern VA working a gunshow and decided to see it Sat night, we got there an hour and a half early and maybe 15 seats left, got our tickets and went to eat, looked to be sold out when we got back and seated, I thought it was very well done, and Oldman should get some type of award for his role, the strong female character parts were present, but not too overly done, and yes the tube scene where they managed to fill other demographic types was a bit fake,, but overall the movie was good, I thought https://www.chesterfieldarmament.com/ | |||
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As an aside, just think about this. Our former President had WC's bust removed from the White House. Pretty much says it all. | |||
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| Dances With Tornados |
I saw it yesterday. I liked it very much, but I'm going to have to get the DVD and watch it a few more times to understand it. Those Brits need to speak more understandable English.  | |||
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Saw it last night and liked it, but have always thought he was a great man. As for the scene when Churchill is talking with FDR and FDR tells him America will move the planes the Brits already purchased near Canada so they can roll them over the border with horses. Please tell me that is not factual? I will be reading A Man Called Intrepid for sure. NRA Life Member "Do what you can, with what you have, where you are." Teddy Roosevelt | |||
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Look at the little blurb - "Horse-drawn Bombers" https://books.google.co.uk/boo...#v=onepage&q&f=false | |||
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| Cynic |
I wore my hearing aids to the movie it made it easier _______________________________________________________ And no, junior not being able to hold still for 5 seconds is not a disability. | |||
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