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Old school actors who played tough guys who WERE tough guys.

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August 14, 2018, 05:49 AM
medic451
Old school actors who played tough guys who WERE tough guys.
Victor McLaglen

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Military service
McLaglen left home at 14 to join the British Army with the intention of fighting in the Second Boer War. However, much to his chagrin, he was stationed at Windsor Castle in the Life Guards and was later forced to leave the army when his true age was discovered.

Four years later, he moved to Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada, where he became a local celebrity,[8] earning a living as a wrestler and heavyweight boxer, with several notable wins in the ring.[9]He also briefly served as a constable in the Winnipeg Police Force in 1907.

One of his most famous fights was against heavyweight champion Jack Johnson in a six-round exhibition bout.

This was Johnson's first bout since winning the heavyweight title from Tommy Burns. Between bouts, McLaglen toured with a circus, which offered $25 to anyone who could go three rounds with him.

He returned to Britain in 1913 and during the First World War served as a captain (acting) with the 10th Battalion, Middlesex Regiment. Later, he claimed to have served with the Royal Irish Fusiliers. He served for a time as military Assistant Provost Marshal for the city of Baghdad.[12] He continued boxing, and was named heavyweight champion of the British Army in 1918.[10]

After the war, he continued boxing.



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August 14, 2018, 05:57 AM
medic451
And also Jack Palance...




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August 14, 2018, 03:07 PM
Replacement Tommel
quote:
Originally posted by K0ZZZ:
I want to say that I really like this list. Otherwise, it's a shame that you can point out as good a list of current actors/actresses that have similar backgrounds.


Adam Driver was a Marine. He enlisted after 9/11 and was a 81mm Mortarman. Got a medical discharge after he broke his sternum.



Wes Studi served in Vietnam.



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August 14, 2018, 07:53 PM
germandogs
For you older than dirt people like me John Russell from "The Lawman" and later Pale Rider.


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August 15, 2018, 06:50 AM
AllenInAR
I find it interesting how the "old school" guys tended to keep quiet about their service and/or not use it to their advantage.

Class acts.


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August 15, 2018, 07:18 AM
Ronin1069
LOL

How the hell has the ultimate ‘tough guy’ not made this list.

Chuck Norris. Honorably serviced in the Air Force and has won a metric shit-ton of martial arts competitions.


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August 15, 2018, 07:50 AM
BansheeOne
I hesitate to bring up Alain Delon, because he is probably not a good role model; either his early life was too close to his screen persona as a stone-cold killer/gangster/renegade for comfort, or it is a carefully constructed image. He did however enlist in the French Navy at age 17, was trained as a radioman, then caught stealing stuff, and given a choice between prison and extending his term from three to five years. Taking the latter, he was sent to Indochina as a marine. He latter said learning to kill there was the best time of his life; a superior allegedly called him a sadist who enjoyed killing entirely too much. I have some doubts about this; per French Wiki, he served in a company protecting Saigon, and while the fusiliers marins conducted riverine operations in Indochina, they are a small corps frequently used as security troops for naval shore installations, with little opportunity for free-ranging killing sprees.

Anyway, Delon spent the last eleven months of his service in military prison before being dishonorably discharged for ditching a stolen jeep in an arroyo after a joyride. While drifting from job to job afterwards, he allegedly made friends in the criminal scene of Marseilles, and remained close to the head of a Corsican mob clan. Two of his bodyguards and ex-/present lovers of his then-wife Nathalie wound up dead in the 60s; one got shot at a party at Mickey Rooney's house in Hollywood both men attended, the other was found wrapped up with his head bashed in at a Paris dump. The latter left a note saying "if something happens to me, it's the fault of Alain Delon and his gangster friend Marcantoni". It was a major affair because the guy had allegedly been taking pictures at high society sex parties including Delon and the wife of French prime minister Georges Pompidou, but was never resolved; suspiciously like a French crime movie.
August 15, 2018, 08:50 AM
oddball
quote:
Originally posted by Ronin1069:
LOL

How the hell has the ultimate ‘tough guy’ not made this list.

Chuck Norris.


Mentioned on the first page.



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August 15, 2018, 09:03 AM
dry-fly
My vote too!



quote:
Originally posted by oddball:


Steve McQueen.

Had a shitty childhood, stepdad beating the shit out of him. A juvenile gangster. Sent to a boys home. Finally joined the Marines, had a rocky start, but ended up straightening out his life. Was an honest to goodness auto and motorcycle racer. Learned martial arts from Pat Johnson (played a bit part in Enter the Dragon), and of course his friend Bruce Lee. The guy was no fluff muffin.



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August 15, 2018, 10:40 AM
maxdog
I once read that Dennis Franz was a combat infrantyman in Vietnam. According to wiki he served with the 82nd and 101st. Retired from acting.
August 15, 2018, 01:12 PM
satch
I've often wondered what some of those who later acted in War movies thought about while making the movie after their real experiences in War.
August 15, 2018, 09:39 PM
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R. Lee Ermey
Mr. T



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August 16, 2018, 12:03 AM
cslinger
Wow thanks for all the reading.

Not a role model to be sure but Danny Trejo comes to mind. Prison, boxing etc. this all makes his role in A Very Harold and Kumar a Christmas even funnier to me.

Never knew about David Niven.


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August 17, 2018, 02:24 PM
PD
Bad-ass old school actors?

Steve McQueen
Lee Marvin
August 17, 2018, 06:19 PM
mrmn50
Jack Palance. ++1
August 17, 2018, 07:45 PM
Chris42
Not exactly an actor/actress, Queen Elizabeth was a military truck driver during WW2. At the time she was only a Princess.
August 17, 2018, 09:05 PM
PD
quote:
Originally posted by Chris42:
Not exactly an actor/actress, Queen Elizabeth was a military truck driver during WW2. At the time she was only a Princess.


Someone didn’t read the cslinger’s original post Wink
August 18, 2018, 01:22 AM
kkina
Robert Conrad (Wild, Wild West) was considered a legitimately skilled boxer. William Conrad (Cannon) was a fighter pilot in WWII.



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August 18, 2018, 03:30 AM
BansheeOne
quote:
Originally posted by PD:
quote:
Originally posted by Chris42:
Not exactly an actor/actress, Queen Elizabeth was a military truck driver during WW2. At the time she was only a Princess.


Someone didn’t read the cslinger’s original post Wink


If we're doing Brits from the general entertainment field, I nominate singer James Blunt. Actual family name Blount, from a military family that goes back to about when the Danes invaded England in the 10th century. Followed in the footsteps of his father who was a cavalryman and helicopter pilot, went to Sandhurst Military Academy and served in the Life Guards Regiment of the Household Cavalry. Volunteered to deploy to Kosovo with the Blues and Royals sister regiment in 1999 as a Scimitar reconnaissance vehicle troop leader. Apparently his unit was point in the NATO drive on Pristina airport that was eventually taken by the Russians in a surprise move, resulting in a tense stand-off.

He later stood guard at the Queen Mother's coffin and got out as a captain in 2002 before launching his musical career. "No bravery" was written while he was in Kosovo, and the video features footage from the video diary he did during his deployment.


August 18, 2018, 08:27 AM
Poacher
James Garner. Marine during Korea, wounded twice and didn't receive his second PH until 1983.

Pretty much the whole cast of The Great Escape it seems.




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