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October 17, 2019, 10:51 PM
arcwelder
David Lynch's Dune
This is one of my favorite films. Both as a film, and as an adaption of Dune.

While I'm always interested in new Dune material, frankly the style and talent in this film means it may never be surpassed.

I have a tremendous nerd boner for this movie.

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October 17, 2019, 11:14 PM
BurtonRW
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October 17, 2019, 11:16 PM
bald1
quote:
David Lynch's Dune

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October 18, 2019, 05:33 AM
AllenInAR
It's not bad, but I prefer the mini-series version. Looking forward to what happens with this newest remake.


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October 18, 2019, 05:38 AM
Oz_Shadow
I remember the mini series on tv but don’t think I ever saw more than bits and pieces. Where can I watch it now? Is this the one you are referencing? Is there a book that is the same?
October 18, 2019, 07:54 AM
Cliff
quote:
Originally posted by arcwelder76:
This is one of my favorite films. Both as a film, and as an adaption of Dune.

While I'm always interested in new Dune material, frankly the style and talent in this film means it may never be surpassed.

I have a tremendous nerd boner for this movie.

Tell me of your home world, Usul.


Tremendous nerd boner. Couldn't have said it better myself. Always dug the movie, the mini-series not so much.





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October 18, 2019, 07:56 AM
fpuhan
Personally, the book was one of the best I ever read, so I felt the movie was a bit of a letdown.




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October 18, 2019, 09:10 AM
SBrooks
I watch it about every 5 years or so. Good flick. Not perfect, but good. I didn't like the sound weapons - thought that was kindof silly.


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October 18, 2019, 09:11 AM
SBrooks
with today's CGI, they could probably do the part where the boy turns into a worm/superman.


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October 18, 2019, 09:27 AM
mark123
quote:
Originally posted by SBrooks:
with today's CGI, they could probably do the part where the boy turns into a worm/superman.
I think we're about 5 movies away from that part though.

I hated the changes Lynch made but realized they were probably necessary for a stand-alone movie. The movie was beautifully filmed and cast well enough. They should have had someone younger than MacLachlan to play a 15 year old though.

It's a 4 out of 5 movie.
October 18, 2019, 09:42 AM
maladat
I like the movie a lot, despite not liking some of the more egregious changes (like the "weirding module").

quote:
Originally posted by mark123:
quote:
Originally posted by SBrooks:
with today's CGI, they could probably do the part where the boy turns into a worm/superman.
I think we're about 5 movies away from that part though.


That would depend on how they split the books up - that story arc starts in book 3 and ends in book 4.
October 18, 2019, 11:37 AM
flesheatingvirus
Great visual artwork, and the Baron was very well portrayed.


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October 18, 2019, 02:20 PM
arcwelder
quote:
Originally posted by mark123:
quote:
Originally posted by SBrooks:
with today's CGI, they could probably do the part where the boy turns into a worm/superman.
I think we're about 5 movies away from that part though.

I hated the changes Lynch made but realized they were probably necessary for a stand-alone movie. The movie was beautifully filmed and cast well enough. They should have had someone younger than MacLachlan to play a 15 year old though.

It's a 4 out of 5 movie.


Between any book and movie, there will be changes. As far as Paul not being 15... frankly it would change the whole emotional tone of the film, and be pretty weird if they actually used tweens. I don't think it's a valid criticism to focus on age, particularly when everyone in that film is so damn good.


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October 18, 2019, 02:32 PM
bald1
quote:
Originally posted by Oz_Shadow:
I remember the mini series on tv but don’t think I ever saw more than bits and pieces. Where can I watch it now? Is this the one you are referencing? Is there a book that is the same?


I have the 3 disk Directors Cut of the TV series starting Wm Hurt along with the Children of Dune DVD. Always thought Sting was exceptional as an evil Feyd-Rautha in the Lynch film. For whatever reason I never picked up the Lynch version.

It's said that Lynch's version was better filmed and acted although it strayed from the book, whereas the TV Series had acting and CGI flaws but was truer to the book.



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October 18, 2019, 02:42 PM
matai
Im very excited for Denis Villanueves version coming out.
October 18, 2019, 04:17 PM
arcwelder
quote:
Originally posted by bald1:
It's said that Lynch's version was better filmed and acted although it strayed from the book, whereas the TV Series had acting and CGI flaws but was truer to the book.


Accurate. A miniseries will generally have more time to get in more detail. Not everything gets Harry Pottered, and they didn't get those absolutely true to the books either. But then, does it really need to be?
|say no. Is the film a good film and entertaining? Absolutely, well, job done.

Because of the amount of detail possible to put in a book, and that we all see it in our minds, nothing will ever be perfect. It's a lot cheaper to build an entire world in a book than on a screen, so things will be changed.

quote:
Originally posted by matai:
Im very excited for Denis Villanueves version coming out.


I have high hopes for it.


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October 18, 2019, 04:28 PM
mark123
quote:
Originally posted by maladat:
I like the movie a lot, despite not liking some of the more egregious changes (like the "weirding module").

quote:
Originally posted by mark123:
quote:
Originally posted by SBrooks:
with today's CGI, they could probably do the part where the boy turns into a worm/superman.
I think we're about 5 movies away from that part though.


That would depend on how they split the books up - that story arc starts in book 3 and ends in book 4.
I seem to remember hearing that the 2020 movie will cover half of the first book.
October 18, 2019, 05:01 PM
hberttmank
I've got the Lynch version on Blu-ray, it's an old favorite. Never seen the TV mini-series.



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October 18, 2019, 06:09 PM
bald1
quote:
Originally posted by mark123:
I seem to remember hearing that the 2020 movie will cover half of the first book.


True Vasili, one half only! Big Grin



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October 18, 2019, 06:27 PM
dsiets
I wouldn't have minded seeing Jodorowsk's Dune, had it been made, but then, it probably would have been a huge mess. I watched this documentary and by the end I was "huh? he never read the book. Ok then."
https://youtu.be/jg4OCeSTL08

The book I finally just started reading recently. So far it seems pretty close to Lynch's, although it's been awhile, and I can't help but see the movie as I read it. I hope to see some bigger changes soon.