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Watched 2 excellent documentaries last night on Amazon Streaming. While both were about racing and an actor/driver they were both extremely different.

I first saw Le Mans when I was probably around 8 years old and thought it was the coolest movie ever and that bright blue and orange Porsche 917's were cool but not as cool as a red Ferrari. I've seen it numerous times since but always kind of background filler. I never had any idea of the real life drama that went into the making of the film. I always knew that Steve McQueen was a badass, but he could be a real bastard as well. After watching the documentary of the film, I feel like I need to watch Le Mans again to fully appreciate it.

Winning, The Racing Life of Paul Newman was incredibly well done. I knew that Newman was a racer, but I had no idea how good he actually was. At length interviews with Robert Wagner, Robert Redford, Bob Sharp and my motorsports hero, Mario Andretti help to tell the story.

If you're into racing or cars at all, check out both of these films. Some great racing footage as well as incredible stories.




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I'm not into racing, even though my entire family is, but I really enjoyed Winning: The Racing Life of Paul Newman, and not just because I like Adam Carolla, either. It's just a good documentary, I was interested the whole time. I highly recommend it if you're a fan of Paul Newman, you're into auto racing, or just got an hour and a half to kill and like learning stuff.



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I will look for the one on Paul Newman.
Met him in '80 or '83 when he was racing his 280Z at Road America. Back then the pits were open and he let me check out his car. Very nice, but also a true racer and focused on racing.
 
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Winning, The Racing Life of Paul Newman was incredibly well done.


Yes, see it if you can.


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By chance I watched these both in the last few weeks. Amazing how Paul Newman gave no quarter on the track. Well worth the time if you are in to cars or racing.
 
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Have seen them both (again) recently. I really enjoy them - most any racing stuff. McQueen is featured in the 1971 documentary "On Any Sunday" a motorcycle sport classic film, he's was a pretty good rider too.


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Have seen them both (again) recently. I really enjoy them - most any racing stuff. McQueen is featured in the 1971 documentary "On Any Sunday" a motorcycle sport classic film, he's was a pretty good rider too.


Good enough to do all of his stunt riding--with the notable exception of the jump across the barbed wire fence--in The Great Escape. This includes the riding that his character did, as well as two German soldiers: the one who hit the wire that Hilts strung up to get a motorcycle, and one of the Germans chasing him during the escape attempt.
 
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I believe McQueen died of mesothelioma and that the source may have been fibers from asbestos , which apparently was used in some of the face masks the dirt track riders used back in the day .
 
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Good enough to do all of his stunt riding--with the notable exception of the jump across the barbed wire fence--in The Great Escape.


Than would be Bud Ekins that did the jump over the fence for McQueen.


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Good enough to do all of his stunt riding--with the notable exception of the jump across the barbed wire fence--in The Great Escape.


Than would be Bud Ekins that did the jump over the fence for McQueen.


That would be correct. Word has it that McQueen tried it but wiped out.
 
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My favorite Steve McQueen driving story involves Bruce Lee. Jump to 4:47 in the video (have posted this before, but I really love this story). Talking is karate great Pat Johnson (the guy who tries to shake down Roper in Enter the Dragon). Hey, we all have our "sensitive" side...

 
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I believe McQueen died of mesothelioma and that the source may have been fibers from asbestos , which apparently was used in some of the face masks the dirt track riders used back in the day .


The face masks he and other racers use until this day are nomex and similar fabrics. Before nomex driving suits and masks were cotton dipped in some sort of starch stuff that was not very effective at preventing burns.
McQueen was a heavy smoker and that's a lot more likely to have caused his lung cancer.
 
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I believe McQueen died of mesothelioma and that the source may have been fibers from asbestos , which apparently was used in some of the face masks the dirt track riders used back in the day .


The face masks he and other racers use until this day are nomex and similar fabrics. Before nomex driving suits and masks were cotton dipped in some sort of starch stuff that was not very effective at preventing burns.
McQueen was a heavy smoker and that's a lot more likely to have caused his lung cancer.

If you research his cause of death, you will see that his lung cancer was diagnosed as mesothelioma, which is caused by asbestos exposure not smoking . How he was exposed to asbestos is open to debate including the face mask or the helmet having contained asbestos . Perhaps more likely is the fact that he once had a job involving asbestos removal .
 
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I believe he did asbestos removal or worked on asbestos covered pipes in the Navy.
 
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Actually there is a strong increase in mesothelioma risk associated with smoking + asbestos exposure. IIRC it increases to 22 times normal, much higher than with asbestos alone but I don't recall the figure off the top of my head. That's from my pulmonary professor in 1980.


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I believe he did asbestos removal or worked on asbestos covered pipes in the Navy.


McQueen was in the Marines.
"...McQueen believed that asbestos used in movie sound stage insulation and race-drivers' protective suits and helmets could have been involved, but he thought it more likely that his illness was a direct result of massive exposure while removing asbestos lagging from pipes aboard a troop ship while in the Marines.[74][75] ........ wiki so ?


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^^^^^lol
Even tho the Marines ride around on Navy ships, I didn't mean to sleight the Marines. Just didn't remember correctly.
 
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