I just re-watched Rogue One tonight on Netflix. I'm surprised that I didn't notice the actor Ben Mendelsohn also played Danny in Bloodline. I knew he looked familiar but couldn't place him.

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Originally posted by PASig:
Agree. Loved Rogue One, especially that bad-ass ending.

Force Awakens was a steaming pile of regurgitated, recycled SHIT!

Um... if I may...

How would you go about bringing a couple generations of people into the Star Wars fold? Especially if they grew up on Episodes 1, 2, and 3?

I'm not defending the movie, other than to point out that my 9yo thought it was super-duper awesome and way better than Episodes 1, 2, and 3.

*shrug*

The Force Awakens was absolutely episode IV redux. That being said that is absolutely what the great majority of the fan base wanted. We wanted STAR WARS again after the kick in the taint that was the prequel trilogy. Force Awakens was that, it's gonna be alright we understand movie. Rogue One was the we can do new things and knock them out of the park as well.

TFA was pandering as an art form but like comfort food after breaking up with the love of your life sometimes you just want to be pandered to.

I loved Force Awakens and frankly I loved it because it unabashedly pandered to my 6 year old self and gave me a big old bowl of Star Wars again, and after the abusive relationship that the prequels were a hug and it's gonna be ok was fine with me.

Honestly my only real complaint was that Kyle Ren was a bit too much emo whiny bitch. Yeah it was the same as episode IV but it was still fun.

I thought Rogue One was awesome. Best Star Wars since Empire and maybe better.

All that being said remember these are Star Wars movies. They ain't high art. Take them at face value.

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Originally posted by cslinger:
Honestly my only real complaint was that Kyle Ren was a bit too much emo whiny bitch. Yeah it was the same as episode IV but it was still fun.

I think Kylo Ren is everything that Anakin Skywalker should have been. He is supposed to be a young kid that is struggling between good and evil, and ultimately snapping and going towards the evil side. I think you'll see him be a lot more dark in the next film.

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Originally posted by cslinger:
The Force Awakens was absolutely episode IV redux. That being said that is absolutely what the great majority of the fan base wanted. We wanted STAR WARS again after the kick in the taint that was the prequel trilogy. Force Awakens was that, it's gonna be alright we understand movie. Rogue One was the we can do new things and knock them out of the park as well.

TFA was pandering as an art form but like comfort food after breaking up with the love of your life sometimes you just want to be pandered to.

I loved Force Awakens and frankly I loved it because it unabashedly pandered to my 6 year old self and gave me a big old bowl of Star Wars again, and after the abusive relationship that the prequels were a hug and it's gonna be ok was fine with me.

Honestly my only real complaint was that Kyle Ren was a bit too much emo whiny bitch. Yeah it was the same as episode IV but it was still fun.

I thought Rogue One was awesome. Best Star Wars since Empire and maybe better.

All that being said remember these are Star Wars movies. They ain't high art. Take them at face value.

I feel the exact same way.

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Originally posted by jhe888:
I want to know why computer data has to be physically removed from the storage device in the future. And why is the storage device a tower in an open shaft 1000 feet tall?

The data was archived in offline storage. Makes a certain amount of sense to do, when you have huge sets of data you're not directly working on at the moment, and as a plus it's more secure.

When I saw them go to get the data, I blurted out 'it's a tape library!' and started laughing. It's an IT thing.

As to putting it at the top of a tower over an open shaft..... Physical access restriction. Couldn't lock it in a basement, cause of the water table.

don't forget, star wars happened "a long time ago in a galaxay far, far away."

it is not set in the future.

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Originally posted by YellowJacket:
don't forget, star wars happened "a long time ago in a galaxay far, far away."

it is not set in the future.

Yeah, it's technically the past, but from our perspective, ALL their tech is pretty much futuristic.

It's also worth remembering that these are alien species we are talking about. They may be 'human,' but they are not 'Earthlings.' Every Earth culture has different values and cultural norms; some get along fine, some do not (in WWII, for example, we understood the German mentality a LOT more than the Japanese one). It's foolish to think that every alien race would be identical to our American (at least Western) culture. They make the characters very similar to us so we can empathize with and relate to them (which is why the main characters will almost always be human; Chewie is one of the few exceptions in that he's completely alien yet a beloved character the fans love), but they are still 'not us.'

I watched Rogue One for what is actually the third time. (Once in the theater, twice on Netflix).
What can I say. It is a nerdgasm. The second time I watched it recently was to watch things going on in the background. Probe Droids, ugnaughts, pig face and his brother Scott. There were so many little things from the original movies that was pretty awesome. Most was tucked in the background.

Oh, and Star Destroyers. Lots of Star Destroyers. I always thought them to be the mark of badassery.

I finally saw this on Netflix. It's okay. Yeah, it's better than The Force Asleepens. Rogue felt just like what it was designed for - something to make money and tide people over between the real movies. I'm also really tired of films utilizing the handheld camera look and the non-stop fast-cut editing. It cheapens the look of the whole film.

All these Disney Star Wars movies make me appreciate Lucas's prequels more. I like his vision and sense of epic-ness, if not the total execution of his films. Unlike most people, I don't want to be served the same stuff over and over. I think I can safely bail from this series now. I did see the 1977 Star Wars 20 times in the theater, but these new ones are not my cup of tea. I am too old and withered and curmudgeonly now. You young kids can keep enjoying them though.

That is, unless a really good space battle pops up. I've been itching for an awesome space battle. But, not one of these modern ones that lasts for 3 seconds before they cut away to the other characters on land. I want one like in the original where you feel like you're in the cockpit, and you can hear everyone barking orders and technical jargon at each other instead of just "Form up! Let's get them!" Lucas patterned that original Death Star battle on old WWII fighter plane movie scenes. Haven't these new directors watched a fighter plane movie?

Of course, nowadays, even fighter plane movies look more like Star Wars than a war movie.

I thought the space battle in Rogue One was better than any seen in the prequels. In fact, aside from the space battle in Return of the Jedi, there weren't any that were really spectacular in the original trilogy.

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Originally posted by Orguss:
In fact, aside from the space battle in Return of the Jedi, there weren't any that were really spectacular in the original trilogy.

I loved the original 1977 one. I had never seen a space battle depicted like a WWII dogfight before that. I had only seen giant starships firing lasers at each other like battleships before Star Wars. And yeah, Jedi's space battle was freakin' insane.

My dad was a mechanic on Navy attack jets, so I've always been a sucker for a good dogfight scene. But what I'm looking for is more Midway (1976) in tone and less Independence Day.

A New Hope didn't have dogfighting scenes. It was more like divebombers attacking a ship and taking heavy casualties.

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Originally posted by Orguss:
A New Hope didn't have dogfighting scenes. It was more like divebombers attacking a ship and taking heavy casualties.

Unless you count the TIE Fighters that attacked the Falcon.

Oh, totally forgot about that scene. Meh. That is boring compared with the battle above Scarif. So my original statement about there being nothing outside of Return of the Jedi being spectacular stands.

"Blind man with a stick! My only weakness!"


https://youtu.be/T5jK4XnaAQQ

Here is the missing soundtrack.