... and there's only 144 downvotes.

Man, FUck this movie. Another they killed the family of the secret squirrl, black ops, only man for the job, I have skills type flic. Why in the fuck would hollyshit attach one of the best of Clancy's books to this piece of shit?

While that may be a movie with a line that says "without remorse", that sure as hell ain't the Without Remorse from Tom Clancy.

Damn, I had my hope up for a second...

Seems like it would have been more acceptable if they'd titled it "The Punisher."

Well this sucks. I was hoping Hollywood would never attempt to ruin one of my favorite books and IMO Tom Clancy’s best work. Fucking eh Hollywood you guys just suck. Why attempt this you won’t do it right. Some stories are so good you assholes cannot hope to come close to recapturing the magic.


Shoulda left Without Remorse alone Hollywood...you worthless PC fucks cannot do it the respect and service it is due.

At least Tom doesn’t have to witness the shit show PC interpretation of his book you guys will create so I guess that’s a good thing.

Hollyweird continues to lower the bar yet again.

For those of us who loved the book, it's painful to watch the trailer (though I do like explosions). It gets worse: His SEAL pal is - wait for it - female.

An elite Navy SEAL uncovers an international conspiracy while seeking justice for the murder of his pregnant wife in Tom Clancy's Without Remorse, the explosive origin story of action hero John Clark - one of the most popular characters in author Tom Clancy's Jack Ryan universe. When a squad of Russian soldiers kills his family in retaliation for his role in a top-secret op, Sr. Chief John Kelly (Michael B. Jordan) pursues the assassins at all costs. Joining forces with a fellow SEAL (Jodie Turner-Smith) and a shadowy CIA agent (Jamie Bell), Kelly's mission unwittingly exposes a covert plot that threatens to engulf the U.S. and Russia in an all-out war. Torn between personal honor and loyalty to his country, Kelly must fight his enemies without remorse if he hopes to avert disaster and reveal the powerful figures behind the conspiracy.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0499097/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_1

I can’t stand this actor, Michael B. Jordan. I don’t see him morph into the characters, more like the other way around. I see the same guy role after role and don’t see the character like for example when Mahershala Ali gets the role. Creed, Black Panther, this, same guy. At least they didn’t cast Jordan as the new Blade. This would have been the perfect role for Trevante Rhodes as well. Was an athlete his whole life, and a Texas boy. Oh well. There are some excellent black actors out there if that was the intent (I have not read the book) and Jordan is NOT one of them. I don’t know why Trevante can’t catch a break. Dude is built like a damn brick shit house and was excellent in Moonlight even if I didn’t care for the subject matter. Hollyweird remains rigged.

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Originally posted by Sigmund:
For those of us who loved the book, it's painful to watch the trailer (though I do like explosions). It gets worse: His SEAL pal is - wait for it - female.


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0499097/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_1

Not only is his SEAL pal a girl...her name is Karen Greer. Yup, Admiral Greer is now a female SEAL.

This trailer and synopsis is so much worse than I expected. When I heard Michael b Jordan was playing Clark I knew they had gone total PC and I probably wouldn’t like it but they totally ditched the original story line. Without Remorse was my favorite Clancy book and this is a disgrace. I had hoped I would be wrong since Taylor Sheridan was involved but - just shit man.

Along those lines they will probably have the female Greer get a sex change in the next movie to become James Greer.

And just to really piss on every one...Michael b Jordan is rumored to be the next Superman in jar jar Abrams reboot.

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Well I, for one, think this looks great...

It just has absolutely nothing to do with Tom Clancy's Without Remorse.

If they're going to completely change the story to have absolutely nothing in common with the original, why not just name it something else? This looks like "one man Rainbow Six" more than anything else.

Apologies for any typos moving forward. I gouged my eyeballs out of my head after watching half of that trailer and am now having to rely on voice to text.

I think that if I were to watch this movie, Id have some serious remorse.

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Originally posted by scot818:
This trailer and synopsis is so much worse than I expected. When I heard Michael b Jordan was playing Clark I know they had gone total PC and I probably wouldn’t like it but they totally ditched the original story line. Without Remorse was my favorite Clancy book and this is a disgrace. I had hoped I would be wrong since Taylor Sheridan was involved but - just shit man.

Along those lines they will probably have the female Greer get a sex change in the next movie to become James Greer.

And just to really piss on every one...Michael b Jordan is rumored to be the next Superman in jar jar Abrams reboot.

if and when the open up any theaters in this area, neither of these movies (I'm including the superman mentioned in the quote) would entice anyone to go ,,,


shameful what Hollywood has become

Soooooooo I just watched the trailer ahead of a YouTube video and.....ummmmm

Correct me if I am wrong, I LOVED Without Remorse. It was my favorite, but what in the actual hell does this have to do with the book???? I mean ok, change the race of the main character whatever no biggie don’t care don’t see the reason but what ever, but maybe just maybe give it the old college try to you know tell the books story. I know crazy talk.

I am getting to the point where I feel like we should be able to form a class action lawsuit against shit like this on the basis they are trying to sell a false bill of goods. Sigh.

But hey I am sure it will be a forgettable, yet enjoyable, ‘splody, angry dude wronged movie and don’t get me wrong I lub’s me some ‘splody forgettable action movies but ........ screw this movie, I’m out.

Frankly wouldn’t Rainbow Six play better in today’s world with the whole eco terrorist bent/save the world/global warming politics. I mean at least you could squeeze in all the politics dujour you’d like without really fundamentally destroying the story. Win....sort a win but what do I know. But Nooooooooo instead let’s just give em’ Hard To Kill with black Steven Segal.....they’ll never notice.

Well, after reading this thread I was reluctant to even watch the trailer. I did though, and y'all are right. It's just more Hollywood crap. Netflix and Prime are full of "They killed my family and I'm out for revenge" entries. How many of those can you really watch, anyway? I'll pass on this one. I just finished my periodic re-reading of RSR, maybe next I'll go back and re-read Without Remorse. Yeah, that's the ticket. Screw the movie, read the book.

I shut this pile of doggy crap off at the half-way point. I've read the book at least twice and think it is probably Clancy's best work. Right up with THFRO. This is another failed attempt by the left to recreate a proven concept their way. Good luck but I won't buy a ticket - or watch it for free.

Sorry Tom - You wrote a great book that these guys apparently never read.

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Originally posted by cslinger:
Frankly wouldn’t Rainbow Six play better in today’s world with the whole eco terrorist bent/save the world/global warming politics. I mean at least you could squeeze in all the politics dujour you’d like without really fundamentally destroying the story. Win....sort a win but what do I know. But Nooooooooo instead let’s just give em’ Hard To Kill with black Steven Segal.....they’ll never notice.

Hollywood will never do Rainbow Six, or at least not as written, because Hollywood almost assuredly sympathizes with the terrorists in that book and not the hero’s.

If Hollywood did a version of Rainbow Six it would be a Republican president ordering the illegal murder of peace loving environmental activists who are going to expose some terrible treasonous thing he did.

The hero would be Jaquista Ryan, a black trans woman, who together with black John Clark and his Latina non-binary husband DC, will lead a group of hackers to take the mean President down.

Reading the replies in this thread reminds me of how I felt after seeing Ender's Game and Ready Player One.