So many talented writers out there with a galaxy of characters and mythology to draw from and we get this steaming pile of crap? Despite his flaws, Lucas had a vision and a story to tell, Disney doesnt, they've just got a revenue generator, unfortunately ran by idiots who approved a script submitted by a 5yr old.

I personally like Rogue one the best out of all of the films so for me Disney is doing something right....but not so much with the last Jedi. Maybe that’s the ticket...off shoot movies like Boba Fett the high school years or Chewy goes to Camp.

I guess I just don't get why there's so much hatred for this movie. The casino scene was pretty lame and unnecessary but that's as far as I can go into the negative.

I thoroughly enjoyed it. So did my wife that never watched any of the Star Wars films until a few years ago.

I found The Last Jedi to be much better than The Force Awakens.

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Originally posted by mark123:
I guess I just don't get why there's so much hatred for this movie. The casino scene was pretty lame and unnecessary but that's as far as I can go into the negative.

It's a matter of continuity. If you can just close your eyes and go to someone/somewhere. Why wouldn't Ben just tell the rebels where the flaw in the death star was from his cave house on Tatooine. Why the journey?

And... Jedi masters should never lactate a walrus being.

The movie was a disappointment, which I'll admit is fueling a bit more flame than the movie really deserves.

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Originally posted by sigspecops:
So many talented writers out there with a galaxy of characters and mythology to draw from and we get this steaming pile of crap? Despite his flaws, Lucas had a vision and a story to tell, Disney doesnt, they've just got a revenue generator, unfortunately ran by idiots who approved a script submitted by a 5yr old.

I have not seen this one yet, but the force awakens was written by focus group polling

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we get this steaming pile of crap?

ah, there's the Laura Dern rationale I was looking for. She's had experience reaching into huge piles of shit.

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Originally posted by zoom6zoom:

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we get this steaming pile of crap?

ah, there's the Laura Dern rationale I was looking for. She's had experience reaching into huge piles of shit.

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I loved her in Lynch's "Wild At Heart."

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Originally posted by agony:
I loved her in Lynch's "Wild At Heart."

"I really did miss your mind when I was out in Pee Dee baby...the rest of you too of course....but the way your head works is God's own private mystery."

Here's a few more questions...


Why did they need a hacker to disable the shields of the command ship? Small ships have flown through deflector shields of capital ship since the x-wings had to switch their deflectors on, double front, in 1977. We see Po do it with his X-wing against the dreadnnought. We see Ren do it with his tie fighters against the resistance cruiser. It. Makes. No. Sense

Why did they need a hacker to get past the sensors? We now know they had cloaking technology that hid the transports from their sensors. Why not just use a cloaked ship then? It. Makes. No. Sense

How about this. Where did they land? Even if we assume they got through the shield and sensors, are we supposed to believe there is a landing bay with NO ONE in it, or that they don't notice a big fucking ship suddenly landing? Never mind that thank God no one was looking out a window and thought, hey what's that thing?

How does Po have Maz Kanata's number? He never met her. Finn met her for 10 minutes. The only people she is tight with are dead (Han solo) or in a previously uncharted system (Chewbacca).

Why didn't all the first order capital ships just launch their fighters and destroy the cruiser? "We can't cover you from here." Cover you from what?!? It's a single capital ship that is incapable of launching fighters and has no crew. Ren fucked it up with THREE ships. That fight would have been over in 45 seconds

"Hey, yeah, so I just blew up their entire compliment of defensive fighters..." (which was way too easy, btw, why haven't they always done that?)

"Launch all fighters from all destroyers!"

100 tie fighters descend on cruiser

Roll credits

It

Made

No

Sense.

What is Chewbacca doing with all those Ewoks???

Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury, it makes no sense

You know it's bad when the Holiday Special makes more sense than Last Jedi.

Man, I was going to watch this On Demand, but now
I'm having second thoughts about even that.

Just got back. Son-in-law invited me. I have free tickets for tomorrow, too.

My take: A movie for and by millenials. Too much CGI in place of plot and character development, and a blatant attempt to reboot every faction in the franchise:

A new supreme badass.
A new rebel alliance.
A new Jedi organization.

Episode IX is going to be the "last of the old so we can try to milk this thing forever" episode.

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Originally posted by mark123:
I guess I just don't get why there's so much hatred for this movie. The casino scene was pretty lame and unnecessary but that's as far as I can go into the negative.

I thoroughly enjoyed it. So did my wife that never watched any of the Star Wars films until a few years ago.

I found The Last Jedi to be much better than The Force Awakens.

So you really didn't have a problem with Leia flying through space like Mary Poppins? almost the entire theater let out a collective groan when that happened.

And you didn't have a problem with the way Luke was portrayed? Or some of his God awful lines?

Just curious.

I'll say this...after TFA and Rogue One the movie theaters erupted in applause. This go around it was dead silent for a few awkward seconds and then the equivalent of a clap that a golfer gets when sinking a double bogey putt.

Disney SJW’s finally killed off the last of the competent/heroic white males (and destroyed Luke’s character utterly in the process) and have replaced them with a slew of mediocre diversity hires.

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Originally posted by CaptainMike:
Disney SJW’s finally killed off the last of the competent/heroic white males (and destroyed Luke’s character utterly in the process) and have replaced them with a slew of mediocre diversity hires.

Beat me to it....This movie is for teeny bopper girls that are Justin Beiber fans. They'll rope their boyfriends into taking them to see all of the cute cuddly creatures and to see all of the badass women of the galaxy. Even with Emo Vader, there is only 1 guy I saw on the screen and that was Chewbacca, the rest were emasculated males with no real power. Poe seemed to believe that he should have been in command (passed over for a woman with purple hair), General Hux (couldn't shoot Kylo Ren? come on!), Fin? Not even close, every time he is about to take a lead, some girl clips his wings. Luke??? Yeah fucking right. His vagina is biggest of them all, and it's got quite a bit of sand in it. That milking scene? Looked very sexual and perverted to me, like that thing wanted Luke to play with it's teats...that sound it made was truly WTF!

FUCK YOU DISNEY! You have ruined Star Wars.

Saw it this afternoon and I'm still processing. I agree with both sides and it saddens me that this movie has fractured the fan base. I get why the critics love it and I get why the fan base is split.

This movie was incredibly long and so much stuff happened in it but it really didn't advance the plot.

Think about where we were 5 minutes before the end of The Force Awakens.

Luke, Gone
First Order, still very much in power after being dealt a blow
Rebellion, still hanging on by a thread
R2- no where to be found

How did this really change the status quo from that?

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Originally posted by mutedblade: Luke??? Yeah fucking right. His vagina is biggest of them all, and it's got quite a bit of sand in it.

Just watched it. That sums it up nicely.

Little or no love here for this one. I'm gonna freak you all out and tell you, I enjoyed the movie. The whole Star Wars thing has been so bastardized going back and forth making the first one the seventh one, and all that crap. I couldn't tell you (or even care) what order they oughta be seen in. So, the last few movies, I go see 'em, and hope I like them. I haven't cared for a Star Wars movie in quite a while, but overall, I liked this one. Yes, lots of oddities and errors. Still had fun watching it. I'll be seeing it again next week when my son flies down for Christmas.

You may fire at will....

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FUCK YOU DISNEY! You have ruined Star Wars.

Star Wars was decimated several movies ago. It's now just sci-fi bubblegum pop. That we all go see. This time, I was surprised to find I enjoyed it.