Just gonna leave this here:

So watched the finale again last night to clear up a couple of things.

One lingering question, and the google isn't much help, why didn't Sam seem to give a shit what happened to Jon in the end?

He went from "you're my best friend" and were naming the baby after you to not even asking about him at the gathering in the dragon pit.

Sansa was pissed Jon wasn't brought, Arya threatened to slit Yaras throat, Bran of course just sat there probably filling up his drawers.

Sam seemed unconcerned. Not even a "sorry you got a raw deal and sent back to the wall"

Lazy writing?. I can see everyone else not caring, but Sam was only alive because Jon saved his ass multiple times in past seasons.

Just doesn't compute.

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Originally posted by highroundcount:
Lazy writing?.

Yes, lots of it.

It wasn't horrible, but it was a good bit worse than it could have been.

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I bet LOTS of people are cancelling HBO as we speak.

Yeah, finishing up a Deadwood re-watch and the movie, then I'll be dumping it.

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Originally posted by joel9507:
Now, my hope is that GRRM will finish the written books..

Never gonna happen. Just find a new dream and walk away from this one.

Yeah, I don't see it being very probable. I suspect he'll end up keeling over from a heart attack sometime after finishing the current book. He's 70, and not in very good health.

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Originally posted by RHINOWSO:

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Originally posted by highroundcount:
Lazy writing?.

Yes, lots of it.

It wasn't horrible, but it was a good bit worse than it could have been.

There was a lot of lazy writing. The show went from a finely crafted cohesive story to an ordinary weekly serial where the current episode may or may not care what happened in previous episodes. It's written for the current week's story and that's it. There's no overarching framework to hold it together.

Finally finished last night. Not awful, there were limited options that wouldn't have taken another two seasons I think. Glad a few folks got me to watch the series for sure.

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But they're going to have a hell of a time rebuilding that huge hole in the Wall at its east end...

I'm in the "why do they need to?" camp. Heck, I was surprised they still had the gate to the tunnel down. Again, why?

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Originally posted by RogueJSK:
Yeah, I don't see it being very probable. I suspect he'll end up keeling over from a heart attack sometime after finishing the current book. He's 70, and not in very good health.

If he hasn't written the last book/books by now, I don't see that he has much interest in ever finishing them. Maybe he got bored, maybe he has too much money. Who knows?

He definitely hasn't written the last books yet. He's still (supposedly) plugging away at the much-delayed Book 6 of an estimated 7.

I'm going with bored, considering he's chasing squirrels on about a dozen other projects right now. Various TV shows (some related to GoT and others not), other book series, various video games and tabletop games, etc. etc.

He's going to piddle away at all those other projects and keel over before he ever finishes GoT.

Holy Necropost, but I gotta resurrect this thread...

I've been ripping DVD's and saving them to my mass storage device. One of the shows I've ripped was the Game of Thrones series. I get the DVD's through Netflix's DVD subscription service.

OK...correct me if I'm wrong and for ANYONE who hasn't watched the show, here comes ******** SPOILER ALERT ********...

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I didn't watch the series when it first premiered on HBO. I started binge-watching in 2019 before Season 8 was released. By the time I had caught up to Season 8, the series was almost over. So if memory serves, I remember the ending in the last episode as Jon/Aegon killing Daenerys and the last remaining dragon picked her up and flew off into the dark...fade to black. Let the cast parties begin!

With the DVD's from Netflix, I just watched an entire extended ending from that described above. Unless I'm losin' it, I don't remember Tyrion getting out of prison and addressing a counsel of all the Lords and Ladies of the Seven Kingdoms where they wound up electing Brandon as king? I don't recall Jon being sent back to The Wall. I don't remember Sansa being crowned Queen of the North. I don't recall Arya on a ship going farther west. I don't remember the ending with Jon and Tormund riding into the forest headed north outside the wall.

Do I need a memory check or am I remembering that when the series originally ended, it didn't have all the extended scenes as described above?

Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue......

Merry Christmas!!

you need a memory check.
all that stuff happened

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Originally posted by creslin:
you need a memory check.
all that stuff happened

Yup!

Yup, you just described the ending of the final episode as it aired on HBO

The first time you saw it, you were so traumatized by the terrible ending to such a promising show that your subconscious attempted to block it out.

And now you've gone and dredged up those painful suppressed memories.

Poor guy.

^ More like Drogon torching the throne was the last exciting part of the final episode so that's all he remembers.

Other than missing a chance to have Ned Stark reanimate in the crypt the show ended better than I was expecting. But I had VERY low expectations going into the final season.

Ok...maybe I was drunk the first time around. Gonna have to rethink sober...

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Originally posted by stickman428:
Other than missing a chance to have Ned Stark reanimate in the crypt ...

The undead in Game of Thrones are just like any other zombie--they need to have a head to re-animate.

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Originally posted by Orguss:
The undead in Game of Thrones are just like any other zombie--they need to have a head to re-animate.

Nope. Unlike traditional Romero-style zombies, Wights in GoT don't require a head.

While I don't recall if it was ever explicitly shown in the series (although I know there were quite a few wights with damaged or partially missing heads), it's specifically pointed out in the books. In the books, one of the first wights encountered (Jafer Flowers, one of the two dead Night's Watchmen) continued to attack even after being beheaded. Ser Jaremy Rykker chops its head off with his sword, and yet the now-headless but still functional Wight grabs a dagger and proceeds to stab Rykker to death.


However, Wights can be killed by Valyrian steel. And Ned Stark was killed by being beheaded with his own Valyrian steel sword, Ice. So perhaps that might prevent him from being able to be raised as a Wight?