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Are ventilated ribs too fragile to be tactical?

No, not at all. I've never seen a vent rib fail.

Are open or aperture iron sights too slow to be competitive?

Slower, yes.

What is the major advantage of aperture sights on a shotgun? Landing slugs on target accurately?

That would be about the only advantage. But a savvy shooter can accomplish the same level of precision with a vent rib. The real advantage of a rear iron sight is that it can be zeroed, and not all shotgun barrels shoot POA/POI with slugs, or even with shot.

If so, at what distance does this become a significant advantage over ventilated ribs with beads, HI Viz or tritium front sights?

Over 25 yards IMHO.




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https://youtu.be/xhSbdtlAMZU?t=59
at 1:26 was that an unintended discharge?


Nope. I loaded slugs to engage slug targets and had a birdshot in the chamber I needed to get rid of. Burned it into the ground. No need to waste time aiming in that circumstance, just so long as it impacts more than 10 feet away from the shooter and is in a safe shooting area.
 
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(Even if it was, rules wise it's fine. Don't know what set of rules they're using, but generally as long as it doesn't hit near your feet, leave the range, or happen while moving or reloading, you can ND all day long and stay within the rules)


You wouldn't believe how many people have watched that video and asked me if it was an ND. Razz



Many shooters will try to plan their loading plan down to the exact shell so that they never need to burn a round. I find that in doing this... if I miss a target and need to make it up, it requires too much time to stop and think about what shell is in the chamber or in the tube if I need to make up a shot.

I find it to be much simpler to just fill my tube up with birdshot and load slugs and buck when and where I need them.


I do it here when I miss a slug shot and have to make it up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2FttseY-Co
 
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Why not both?

 
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You wouldn't believe how many people have watched that video and asked me if it was an ND.


I've been accused of this same thing emptying a rifle to abandon it. One RO gave me the advice of "You might want to make it look more intentional." Big Grin

Before dual/quad loading became the only way to keep up, when we were still loading weak hand, I used to love to occasionally engage targets "one handed" while loading with the other. (Mostly because I thought it was cool Cool and heck, the gun was pointing at a target, why not pull the trigger!?) Got accused of an ND with that once or twice as well. "I was aiming at the target, did you not see it go down!!"


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I don’t know if I understand the reference to “burning” a round.

Does that mean deliberately firing a round in competition that’s not intended to hit a target so that the gun will be empty when no longer needed for a stage and is left behind when moving on, or to change ammunition type?




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I don’t know if I understand the reference to “burning” a round.

Does that mean deliberately firing a round in competition that’s not intended to hit a target so that the gun will be empty when no longer needed for a stage and is left behind when moving on, or to change ammunition type?


Both, yes.
 
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Thank you.
 
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Is that a 21" barrel? I like the look of that. I can totally see how you could easily translate your clay shooting experience into defensive use with a setup like that. Familiar handling and sighting, in a shorter, handier package with a greater magazine capacity.

Tacticlay Big Grin


Y'know, with a quick application of some spray paint camo, that would also make a dandy turkey gun. Those tend to have shorter barrels like that too.

Turktical Big Grin


Yes, my 1301 Comp is the 21" barreled version. I really like Beretta's semiauto shotguns. I've got a A400 Xtreme that I use for waterfowl and turkey among others. The damn quarantine forced me to cancel my 2020 turkey hunt, but I really like this 28" gun for big birds (turkey, sandhill cranes, geese, etc...) and recently added a Trijicon RMR (Dual Illuminated) Green dot to it for gobblers this next year. Frown



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