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Not a problem, I enjoy this stuff.  "Pickin' stones and pullin' teats is a hard way to make a living. But, sure as God's got sandals, it beats fightin' dudes with treasure trails." "We've been tricked, we've been backstabbed, and we've been quite possibly, bamboozled." | |||
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That's a great question and historically it has been both. Every major nation has ordnance collections for the purpose of studying designs and gun designers make extensive use of such collections. Why re-invent the wheel? But also, as you note, there have been a number of situations where it is impossible to tell who cooked up what first, and in fact, two guys may have simply bumped into the same idea at the same time. Was recently reading in the Schmeisser Myth of just such an occasion and there are others as well. sometimes these lead to patent suits where the chaos and confusion is hashed out and sometimes...not! ********************** 53 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Read Quod Apostolici Muneris (1878) LEO XIII. This Pope warned us about the Socialists before most folks knew what a Socialist was... | |||
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| Get on the fifty! |
Couple more with it's pal the K43. Working on getting an original sling for the PTR. The repro is nice but just doesn't have the "look"that only old leather gives.This message has been edited. Last edited by: Andyb, "Pickin' stones and pullin' teats is a hard way to make a living. But, sure as God's got sandals, it beats fightin' dudes with treasure trails." "We've been tricked, we've been backstabbed, and we've been quite possibly, bamboozled." | |||
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from the pictures I"ve seen it looks correct, its just new ... like the rest of it! If you really want something you'll find a way ... ... if you don't you'll find an excuse. I'm really not a "kid" anymore ... but I haven't grown up yet either  | |||
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Being influenced by prior knowledge is certainly true of me and, I suspect, of most people, especially anyone who has a strong interest in a subject and studies a wide variety of sources in depth. I’m not a gun designer, but I adopt the ideas of countless other people that relate to the things I teach. Sometimes they are distinct and useful enough for me to remember where I first heard them, but far more often than not they exist as vague concepts in an ever-evolving stew of thought. Very often as well I don’t give them much thought until other facts and circumstances arise and I think, “That idea would go well with these.” But regardless of how much the Russians (Soviets, really) were influenced in their gun designs by others, they had no compunction whatsoever about deliberately stealing and consciously using other technical information from photographic processes to the atomic bomb. An extremely revealing book is Venona: Decoding Soviet Espionage in America, by Haynes and Klehr. Spies in America working for the Communists reported every technical secret they could lay hands on. If the Soviet guns didn’t rely on the work of others for their successes, it wasn’t because they would have hesitated to do so if they’d thought it worthwhile. ► 6.4/93.6 “Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something.” — Plato | |||
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Too bad we don't have a "Like" button ... but then there's a lot of ideas, pictures etc I like, and not just in this thread! If you really want something you'll find a way ... ... if you don't you'll find an excuse. I'm really not a "kid" anymore ... but I haven't grown up yet either | |||
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