Best 9mm pcc Z5P vs APC9

September 05, 2017, 06:51 PM

Hunter22

Best 9mm pcc Z5P vs APC9

I have a zenith mp5 full-size SBR that I love, and want to fill the PDW roll in my collection, so i bought the zenith Z5P and haven't really been that impressed. So much so that I am now debating selling the Z5p and replacing it with a B&T APC9.

If I go with the APC9 cost wise it is kind of a wash, one I get it SBRed.

For the people who have both an mp5k SBR and a APC9 which do you prefer?

Thanks in advance.

September 05, 2017, 07:30 PM

PGT

can't go wrong with either. I have shot a full auto MP5 and also own an APC9. Both are smooth and controllable.

September 05, 2017, 08:27 PM

10X-Shooter

If you can spend some time checking out the APC9 in person I'd suggest that. I've had and shot plenty of HK's and they're classic and robust. The trigger on the APC is far and away better. It's really going to come down to preference. I absolutely love my APC9 and the only HK I now own is actually my Benelli M1S90 only marked HK. Check one out in person. If you're in SE TN shoot me an email and you can try mine out at the range and compare to yours.

September 05, 2017, 08:29 PM

Hunter22

quote:
Originally posted by PGT:
can't go wrong with either. I have shot a full auto MP5 and also own an APC9. Both are smooth and controllable.

Is there a difference in felt recoil between the two?
That was one of the main things I like about the mp5 vs something like the CZ scorpion and what concerns me about the blowback action of the APC9.

September 05, 2017, 08:50 PM

Hunter22

quote:
Originally posted by 10X-Shooter:
If you can spend some time checking out the APC9 in person I'd suggest that. I've had and shot plenty of HK's and they're classic and robust. The trigger on the APC is far and away better. It's really going to come down to preference. I absolutely love my APC9 and the only HK I now own is actually my Benelli M1S90 only marked HK. Check one out in person. If you're in SE TN shoot me an email and you can try mine out at the range and compare to yours.

I'm in WA so your a little far away, or i would take you up on the offer.

I have indeed played with one and was impressed, haven't shot one and the whole blowback operation kind of turned me off from my experiences with other blowback guns... allthough it sounds like this could be different.

September 05, 2017, 09:02 PM

JoshNC

I have a fullauto MP5K-N and MP5-N. I have fired the fullauto APC9 on multiple occasions and compared it side by side to the MP5K-N. My K-N has the 28 locking piece and about the same ROF as the fullsize. The APC9 is subjectively every bit as smooth as the MP5 series in my opinion. The APC has better ergonomics, is ambidextrous, has better optic/accessory mounting, has a last round bolt catch, and its operating system is very simple.

The simple answer is to buy them both.

September 06, 2017, 01:23 AM

10X-Shooter

JoshNC, you sir always have the best advice!

September 06, 2017, 11:44 AM

JoshNC

quote:
Originally posted by Hunter22:

I have indeed played with one and was impressed, haven't shot one and the whole blowback operation kind of turned me off from my experiences with other blowback guns... allthough it sounds like this could be different.

The hydraulic buffer is what sets the APC9 apart from other direct blowback SMGs. The APC is very very smooth.

September 06, 2017, 03:47 PM

Hunter22

Thanks for all the responses, you guys have convinced me to pick up an APC9.

September 06, 2017, 08:44 PM

10X-Shooter

Good choice

https://i.imgur.com/fTpsbHt.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/hgDH313.jpg

September 07, 2017, 10:37 AM

greyeyezz

What problems are you having with your Z5P? Mine runs like a champ and is quite accurate. Zenith has very good CS.

September 09, 2017, 12:28 AM

JoshNC

quote:
Originally posted by 10X-Shooter:
JoshNC, you sir always have the best advice!

Well thanks, 10X. As my friends can attest I'm great at helping others spend their money.