So I want an AK or technically an AKM. This is my first entry into combloc weapons other than a Norinco SKS that I inherited. I like the SKS and so I am now looking to add an AK to the collection. I really don't want to spend Arsenal money on it and would rather get something value priced that will last and change accessories around until I have something that I like. Will start with stock furniture and irons and then add optics and other upgrades as I get used to it.
I have watched and read just about everything on the AKOU channel & website and am leaning toward a WASR 10 from Atlantic Firearms.
So for those who have AKs, what do you recommend and why? Where to buy? Any other information to know?
Thanks in advance!
Posts: 174 | Location: GA | Registered: August 05, 2006
I've had a few over the years and have never had a problem with any of them. I had a WASR,Bulgarian and a Yugo and all functioned perfectly. Accuracy is not bad among them,nothing like an ar-15 but they are not meant to) and ammo. is cheap. The problems you might have are common with the rifle-canted sights/block, mag. well cuts/issues,etc., but usually don't cause issues with functioning. Hard to say where you will find the best deals.
I have one of the original Saigas imported almost 17 years ago by EAA. Shot many a thousands of rounds with it in that “sporting” setup and it was great. Got on the 922r bandwagon and converted it. Worlds better.
You can find them floating out their unconverted and converted. Mine has been great and is pretty much Russian still if that makes a difference.
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What is value priced? I would recommend spending more initially to get what you want up front. Accessories are just that - accessories.
I have a Rifle Dynamics AK built by Jim Fuller in 2012. Not cheap - but I have 10,000 rounds through it without a hitch and other than the initial cleaning - ran it 6K before cleaning it. This is 2" rifle with irons (shouldered) - which is typically one of the detractors with AK's.
You can spend as little or as much as you want on an AK - and not be disappointed either way.
Thanks for the comments so far. I didn't realize the Arsenal 107s could be had in the $800 range. The problem is finding one so far. Value priced for me is $850 or less. I'll add the Saiga to the list as well. The WASR 10 are readily available but it seems like they and AKs in general can be luck of the draw on canted sights and other issues.
This is really just going to be a learning experience. I take classes/training regularly and am proficient with an AR so just wanting to change things up and take some carbine classes out to 400yds with an AK. Thought about doing it with the SKS but then tried loading with stripper clips repeatedly while on the move and that was not fun and would require too much practice. So my thoughts turned to an AK. I just want one that runs and I don't want to end up screwing with it to make run. Just a shooter with decent accuracy. I am fully aware of the accuracy vs. an AR.
Posts: 174 | Location: GA | Registered: August 05, 2006
I started cheap and then after battling lots of issues I just gave up. Went arsenal and have been happy across quite a few of them. Not perfect I had one that had issues, but I sent it to them and they fixed it asap. I can't see any reason to go lower in quality unless you enjoy fixing stuff.
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My experience is probably not easy to replicate these days, but all three of my AKs were built on parts kits. This was back in the day when you could get parts kits for, depending on what they were, $80 bucks.
Got a Romy G kit, a Polish PKMS kit and a Tantal kit, all for, IIRC, just over $500. Nodak receivers, some compliance parts and a smith to build them and I think each gun came out to the tune of $600. Again, probably not something you can do today now that parts kits dried up and the whole barrel ban thing, but I enjoyed getting exactly what I wanted right out of the gate.
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Posts: 17863 | Location: SE PA | Registered: January 12, 2001
Unless you run across a good deal on an Arsenal, ( that you can lay hands on and visually inspect, like any prospective AK, ) that WASR 10 you're looking at on Atlantic's site would probably suit your needs just fine.
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Posts: 6832 | Location: Georgia | Registered: February 19, 2005
[QUOTE]Originally posted by l33571: The WASR 10 are readily available but it seems like they and AKs in general can be luck of the draw on canted sights and other issues.
You correct it can be difficult to get one without canted sights. I wouldn't buy one unless I could check it out in person. The only brand I've seen that had very few problem is Arsenal. Well worth the extra $$$ you pay for one. I was able to check out both WASR's and Century Yugo's and had to go thru at least a half dozen of each before I found one without canted front sights.
Posts: 1740 | Location: Arizona | Registered: June 20, 2009
Canted front sights are one thing, but relatively easy to fix if the rear sights aren't canted. Canted rear sights can be a nickle-plated PITA. A slight bit of cant may be fixable or at least something that can be ameliorated; a lot of cant is something you're stuck with.
Posts: 21849 | Location: Deep in the heart of the brush country, and closing on that #&*%!?! roadrunner. Really. | Registered: February 05, 2008
I have a WASR-10 from Atlantic and it’s been great. No issues though not many rounds through it yet. I think it was about $679 shipped. The new ones are very well fit and finished. They have not had an issue with canted sights for a while now. Atlantic does a quality control check anyway before shipping.
I wouldn’t buy without inspecting first. Some years back I bought a WASR under folder at my LGS. I didn’t notice at the time the bolt and receiver serial numbers on the rifle did not match. It had headspace problems as a result and the bolt wouldn’t close on a cartridge. My fault for not noticing I guess. Took some work by gunsmith to correct.
I now have a Romy parts kit on a Nodak receiver that works very well. I recently changed to Magpul furniture and am very pleased with it.This message has been edited. Last edited by: Mike748,
Posts: 154 | Location: Texas | Registered: December 20, 2001