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I dig it. I'd leave the ACOG on, since you can use your ACOG as a quasi-Aimpoint.

If you'll put a flip-up lens cap on the front, with the cap down and both eyes open you can use it as an "occluded eye sight". The left eye sees the target, the right eye sees the illuminated reticle on the black background, and the brain automatically superimposes the lit reticle over the target in your mind. (Hooray evolutionary development of offset binocular vision!)

You can achieve the same effect even without covering the front of the ACOG (something called the "Bindon Aiming Concept"), but it's typically a lot easier to get the hang of it with the illuminated reticle on a black background, so you're not distracted by the magnification in your right eye's image. But you can give it a try with no cover, and with a makeshift cover taped on, before deciding if investing in the flip up lens cap is worthwhile or not.

Then, for longer range use, flip up the front cap (if installed) and use the magnified ACOG as normal.

Give it a shot. It may feel weird at first, but comes quite naturally with a little practice. It's a trick used by the USMC for CQB with their ACOGs.

That'll tide you over until you can get an Aimpoint, plus by that point you'll already have practice shooting a red dot with both eyes open (like you should). You'll just be able to see the target normally with both eyes with the Aimpoint, and will no longer have to worry about having your head positioned just right within a limited eyebox like with the ACOG.
 
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I was messing around with it last night and a little today to see if my brain can ignore everything but the red chevron in my right eye and go off only what's seen through my left eye.

I think with enough training, I can make it work.

My 10 year old son digs it with the carry handle as it's lighter. I showed it to him and his face lit up: "Is that mine?!" Big Grin

I also ordered a American Defense SOCOM cantilever mount for the Vortex Razor 1-6X. I'll see how it feels but that optic will eventually go on my BCM 16" mid-length.


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I ran about 50 rounds through it today and it ran without a hiccup. Pretty good accuracy at 50 yards, but it's so light, it's hard to keep it on target. My range doesn't allow AR pistols at the action range, so we were stuck on the general purpose range.



I'll have to head out to what's left of the forest sometime and get some practice doing close-in shooting and rapid target engagement.

It does shoot a nice fireball though!

Tony.


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Nice setup. I favor Aimpoint but there's nothing wrong with Trijicon.

Personally I never cared much for the Razor. Only positive was that I got it at a great price, so I didn't lose anything when I kicked it to the curb. Clear glass but lots of annoying peripheral distortion at low power; odd (and disgruntling) that the WAY cheaper 1-8x24 Strike Eagle didn't have nearly as much as the Razor did. Far too much dead weight even on a full rifle-length AR-15 bench gun. Never could find a reasonable 'fit' for it; had mine bouncing from gun to gun for a couple of months before throwing up my hands and ultimately selling it off. The buyer kept it for a few months longer than I did before he gave up on it as well.


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I forgot to mention that I do have a Burris FastFire. Would that me more ideal than the ACOG? I plan on a 100 yard zero and keep it at that.


Since you already have the Burris Fastfire, put it in the AR-F3 mount and call it good. I have more than one that has gone through more than 1 class (rifle and shotgun) and I have been very happy with both performance and durability.

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I forgot to mention that I do have a Burris FastFire. Would that me more ideal than the ACOG? I plan on a 100 yard zero and keep it at that.


Since you already have the Burris Fastfire, put it in the AR-F3 mount and call it good. I have more than one that has gone through more than 1 class (rifle and shotgun) and I have been very happy with both performance and durability.

Bruce


Thanks! I was actually talking to Weshowe a couple of days ago and we were talking about this pistol and my eventual desire for an Aimpoint. He said he has one he just took off a rifle and isn't using. I guess it will be mine for a very good price.

Tony.


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Has anyone used these ACSS scopes from Primary Arms? I feel like these might be a nice solution for a 10.5" kit.

https://www.primaryarms.com/pr...ith-acss-556-reticle

I'm asking because I have a 10.5" kit inbound from PSA. (I found the colored "unicorn" Spikes lower at my LGS today, so of course I have to start a tiny M4 build.)




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I have a Primary Arms 2.5x with the ACSS-CQB reticle on one of my ARs, and I like it, for what it is. (An inexpensive ACOG-ish optic for use on one of my plinkers.)

But it's not as good of an option as a red dot with flip-to-side 3x magnifier, for the kind of stuff for which you'd usually be using a 10.5" AR.
 
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Thank you!




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I met Weshowe at the range today and got an Aimpoint COMP M3 in trade. It was in mint condition! He even put in a fresh battery for me. I installed it and got a 50 yard zero. The shots in the 10-ring are the last shots after final adjustment.



Now I need to hit an empty spot in the forest and practice quick target shooting. Barely had time to zero this one since I had two deer rifles to zero and a 629 revolver which will be my hunting sidearm this year. I retired the Sig 1911 from hunting duty.

Tony.


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Tony,

The pistol and aimpoint came together nicely. Accuracy is good as evidenced by you last groups.
Well done!

Wes
 
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