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I would have to have a Thompson, in a collection like that.

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It's up to you the depth of variations you want in your collection.
Me, I'd go with a representation of each advancement in arms. So either the A1or A2, but not both.
Now, if you were getting by major war or conflict. You would need both (and include the A4, and M4)




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Add to your list: Winchester Model 1895. About 10K 1895 "muskets" were acquired by the US for use in the Spanish American War. Delivery was made just after the war ended.
US marked 1895 Winchester muskets are quite rare.


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Posts: 16005 | Location: Marquette MI | Registered: July 08, 2014Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Originally posted by RogueJSK:

I think the M1917 is the ideal military bolt-action rifle from the WW1/WW2 era. Rugged and accurate, with a potent caliber, smooth and fast cock-on-closing bolt action, robust peep sight, and 6 round magazine. The main downside is that's it's a bit long and heavy compared to some others.



Even over the No.4 mkI? I’m sticking to US for my “official” collection, but when it comes to range time, I love shooting the Enfield...

Bill R
 
Posts: 1117 | Location: Wet side of WA | Registered: October 24, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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It's up to you the depth of variations you want in your collection.
Me, I'd go with a representation of each advancement in arms. So either the A1or A2, but not both.
Now, if you were getting by major war or conflict. You would need both (and include the A4, and M4)


That’s about where I was thinking... not so much “one of each”, but each main change forward in design.

Who am I kidding... I bet I end up with more rather than less... I’ve already ended up with two Springfield Trapdoors, one an Allen Conversion in .50-70....

Bill R
 
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Even over the No.4 mkI?


Yep, by a nose. I think the M1917/P14 rifle is a bit more rugged, and a little "classier", than the No. 4.

I do like Enfields, though...

 
Posts: 32431 | Location: Northwest Arkansas | Registered: January 06, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Yep, by a nose. I think the M1917/P14 rifle is a bit more rugged, and a little "classier", than the No. 4.


And.... you can convert the 1917 action into a 416 Rigby. So there’s that....

Bill R
 
Posts: 1117 | Location: Wet side of WA | Registered: October 24, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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As a fellow Washingtonian dealing with this stupid law, I humbly suggest you just buy the lowers for the AR variants you’re looking at building. If you care about having an A1 or non-fenced lower, snag a Nodak Spud and as many A2 lowers as makes sense for your goals. They’re as cheap as they’ve ever been right now, and that’s the part that trips the fun with the new law. Take your time and build them up at your leisure from there without it killing your budget for other complete rifles. I plan to add a few more myself, even though I’m not at all interested in any more AR’s.

The bolt rifles aren’t semi-auto and don’t fall under the purview of I639, as I understand it. Those can be de-prioritized. Get yourself an M1 Garand and M1 carbine. Every red-blooded American gun owner ought to own at least one, preferably both types, maybe multiples of each. Just can’t go wrong there. A further argument could be made for owning an M14 type as well, but for my money, I’d rather own a second Garand. Just me, there.

A Thompson of any officially adopted configuration would be fun to have in the safe, but honestly, I would put it pretty far down on the list in terms of cost vs reward.

For folks chiming in from out-of-state, EVERYTHING semi-auto, pistol, rifle and shotgun from July 1st, 2019 will be legally considered an assault weapon, and the purchasing of will permanently waive your HIPAA rights, and you’ll be subject to safe storage inspections and having to undergo regular “training” classes to allow you to keep them. Nobody under 21 gets to shoot anything semi auto anymore as of, I believe, New Years. And there’s even more shitty stuff included beyond that.

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The CMP currently has a good number of Service Grade Garands available, with relatively quick shipping by CMP standards (~2 weeks, whereas the wait is usually measured in months).

$750 shipped.

If you want a M1 Garand, now's a great time get one.
 
Posts: 32431 | Location: Northwest Arkansas | Registered: January 06, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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CMP can’t ship to your door in this state, has to be transferred to an FFL and there’s a 10% “usage tax” fee for whatever you paid for it, (or market value, so have your receipt to prove that taxes have been paid, which may not apply to CMP purchases, you’ll need to look into it) for any gun transferred from out of state. So be aware of that. If you find a good Garand locally, it might be a possibly better option unless you view the tax as part of doing business.


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If you consider civil war carbines, you are missing quite a bit.


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Should have a SCAR in there.
 
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A Johnson rifle would be cool to have. I held one once and really wanted it. But $4000 was out of reach.


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