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Green grass and
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So I am working on a lightweight Tikka project in 7mm RM.
I am considering a muzzle brake for it. Shoot with and without so I am familiar with them. The up and down side. So plz spare me the typical "shooting next to someone with one at the range" comments.

Because I want to keep this rifle as light as possible I am woondering about options on particular versions. My local gunsmith has his own which has worked well for me. But am wondering about other options and cost's. It is a stainless version.

I am not dead set on one.
Also a person I respect say's it enhances accuracy.
Which I have no idea if true or not but that will have little of no bearing on my decision. Thanks



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All I can say is that there’s no guarantee that a muzzle brake will enhance the inherent accuracy of the rifle. It may improve practical accuracy because the shooter isn’t being subjected to the same degree of recoil and may be more comfortable shooting the gun, but that’s all.




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His comment was not related to that. It was as I said. He said it enhances the rifles accuracy. I am not saying it is true. But that is what he said.

And he said very minimally, but so.

But to stay on topic. Lets discuss different muzzle brakes you have or know of and the quality and cost.

Thx



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Sorry; thought the comment was about enhancing accuracy. Carry on.
 
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What muzzle thread?


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I don't know squat about muzzle brakes except to say they are banned in NRA competition. Beyond that, I fail to see how adding anything to a barrel "enhances accuracy." However, that said, there is a small group of yahoos in F-class that actually believes in barrel tuners, the idiots. I seriously doubt a muzzle brake would act as a barrel tuner as it's designed completely wrong to do that.

So, I would not dismiss what sigfreund said in such a cavalier fashion, because I think he may be more correct than you think. Beyond the inherent precision of a rifle and ammo, the 7-8 pounds of wet gray goo in a weird box on top of your shoulders has an inordinate amount of influence on the accuracy of your rifle and if it helps that goo to believe the brake helps it, so much the better.

Muzzle brakes should be banned. On the other hand, I'm really taking a liking to suppressors and will be pushing NRA to accept those in competition. They are so, civilized.

And yes, they are an addition to a barrel, but I can see where working with them could produce something phenomenal. A quieter tack driver, albeit too late for my hearing.
 
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No issue SF Cool

Barrel is not factory threaded.



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There are many muzzle brake users in Precision Rifle Series competition. A have APA brakes for both my 6.5/308 and my 223 rifles. APA brakes are very effective on reducing recoil.

As Sigfreund stated, noticeable accuracy improvement is from reducing recoil to the shooter, not from a hunk of metal on the muzzle.
 
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Ive always thought the Micro Bastard was the best brake for a Tikka.

https://www.americanprecisiona...rakes/micro-bastard/
 
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I've got the BOSS system on my Browning 7mm Mag. If you spend the time tuning it, you will see better accuracy or worse. The reason or one of them for better accuracy is also the reduced recoil. That part really does work. Brings it back to the level of a 7mm Mauser, not worse than a .30-06.

For me, the hardest part was letting the barrel cool off between shots and adjustments. The book that Browning provides suggests some starting settings. If you doubt the value of reduced recoil and vibrations, just take the brake and locknut off and shoot it a few times.


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Suggest a APA brake. Most effective brake I've used. Tried several others on my rifles, been behind friends braked rifles...
 
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My opinion is in no way a direct reflection on NikonUser.

NRA Competitions tend to lag behind the times with advancements. I do respect their shooting abilities but the tedium of that discipline is overwhelming....to me.

APA Lil Bastard Brakes are an excellent design. They are designed for recoil mitigation. This allows a shooter a better opportunity to see bullet trace, Impacts, or misses. The brake device is not designed as a barrel tuner or to affect accuracy.

With large caliber and magnum calibers, the addition of a brake is very helpful.

To those that complain about the "noise"...... I'd suggest an air rifle.

Andrew



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Thanks for the recommendations guys.



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The JP Rifles "Recoil Eliminator" has a great reputation, but they are ugly. I have never used one.

https://www.jprifles.com/1.4.2_re.php

I have shot an AR with one of JP Rifles' more conventional-looking compensators, and they are very effective. They make them for many bore diameters.




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Back in the day I had a Thompson Contender in 7mmBR, .308Win and .45-70, because I could. All three barrels multi-port muzzle brakes fitted that did totally zero, except spread the misery along the firing line. One wag asked me if they had been fitted back-to-front...

Sorry for thread drift.

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Originally posted by tacfoley:
Back in the day I had a Thompson Contender in 7mmBR, .308Win and .45-70, because I could. All three barrels multi-port muzzle brakes fitted that did totally zero, except spread the misery along the firing line. One wag asked me if they had been fitted back-to-front...

Sorry for thread drift.

tac


I've got single shot pistols in all those calibers. The 7 BR isn't braked, and doesn't need to be. The 308 I'll have to assume the brake is effective since I haven't considered shooting it without it mounted. I do have an unbraked 308 SSP without a brake, but it has a longer barrel that helps mitigate recoil.

I have an SSK Contender barrel in 45-70 that is magnaported I've never shot. My Contender frame is early and the later barrel won't unlock. I either need to get a later frame or have my early one modified for later barrels before I can shoot it.

Regarding the OPs rifle, even though its much easier to brake it as you are building, I'd wait until you've shot it some before deciding to brake it. 7MM Rem Mag isn't a real boomer as far as recoil, and you might never know if it was dead nuts accurate unbraked that might be altered with a brake.
 
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