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Minimum tools needed to build an AR lower

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April 15, 2019, 10:11 PM
4x5
Minimum tools needed to build an AR lower
I bought a lower a couple of years ago to build into a pistol, and now those PSA complete pistol kits are looking pretty tempting. I've watched a few videos, and I'm pretty sure I could assemble the lower, but I'm wondering what the minimum necssary tools are to do the job? Also, for those of you who have built lowers before, do you stake the castle nut? Do you just use a punch?
Any help and advice is appreciated



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April 15, 2019, 10:27 PM
lkdr1989
The main thing is getting the bolt catch roll pin installed and you'll need a set of good punches.


Geissele.com for a roll pin punch, eBay for the vice block. A couple of years ago I was able to buy a very nice set of punches from BRD Engineering but they don't sell them anymore Frown




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April 15, 2019, 10:29 PM
powermad
This is all I used to assemble my first lower.


I've bought some tools along the way since then.
I just snugged the nut down with a punch and hammer.
April 15, 2019, 11:08 PM
Ryanp225
Channel lock and a pocket screwdriver.
Might be a bit more minimal than you meant though. Smile
April 15, 2019, 11:09 PM
PorterN
I live just up the road from you - would always be happy to lend you my punch set and AR wrench if you want to try before you buy your own, so to speak. I don't have much but, like you said, the minimum necessary - simple things, but I've assembled a few lowers in my days.

I've never staked a castle nut, though.



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April 15, 2019, 11:17 PM
4x5
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Originally posted by PorterN:
I live just up the road from you - would always be happy to lend you my punch set and AR wrench if you want to try before you buy your own, so to speak. I don't have much but, like you said, the minimum necessary - simple things, but I've assembled a few lowers in my days.

I've never staked a castle nut, though.

Thanks for the offer. I'd like to get the tools to have on hand in case I need to fix something and the zombies are attacking Alpine Smile



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April 15, 2019, 11:19 PM
PorterN
quote:
Originally posted by 4x5:
quote:
Originally posted by PorterN:
I live just up the road from you - would always be happy to lend you my punch set and AR wrench if you want to try before you buy your own, so to speak. I don't have much but, like you said, the minimum necessary - simple things, but I've assembled a few lowers in my days.

I've never staked a castle nut, though.

Thanks for the offer. I'd like to get the tools to have on hand in case I need to fix something and the zombies are attacking Alpine Smile


Of course. I just picked up the two-punch AR set - the ones with the half-circle shaped handles so the flat side can go against the lower - and the Magpul AR wrench from Cabela's. That's really all I use for assembling lowers. That and a small hammer to hit the punch with.



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April 16, 2019, 05:20 AM
SIGfourme
Note the taped Channel Locks in Powermad pic.
Push roll pins in with Channel Locks.
Punches help to align the holes.
Geiselle makes a nice Armour's kit which goes on sale every Black Friday. The Geiselle Trigger punch is useful-especially with a "guide" trigger pin.
April 16, 2019, 07:26 AM
cmparrish
These are a little expensive, but worth the money for installing the bolt catch and trigger guard pins.

https://www.amazon.com/Knipex-...ps%2C187&sr=8-2&th=1

Yes, they can be done with a roll pin punch and hammer, but the Kinpex pliers make life so much easier.

You'll also need a razor blade to compress and hold the front takedown spring and pin down in the hole while you slide the takedown pin into position.

The rubber end of an unsharpened pencil makes pushing the mag catch into the receiver far enough to tighten the catch up.

As far as staking the castle nut. It's pretty easy. I just use a center punch, either my spring loaded one or just a hammer and the steel center punch. Give it a couple of good taps and it moves just enough metal. Of the 8 or so I've built, I think I've only ever staked maybe 2 or 3. And that was just to see how it went. Never had a problem with a castle nut coming loose.
April 16, 2019, 07:56 AM
NikonUser
quote:
Originally posted by lkdr1989:
The main thing is getting the bolt catch roll pin installed and you'll need a set of good punches.

  • starter punch (hold roll pin)
  • roll pin punch
  • vice block to hold the lower
  • Castle nut wrench: Magpul makes a nice wrench


Geissele.com for a roll pin punch, eBay for the vice block. A couple of years ago I was able to buy a very nice set of punches from BRD Engineering but they don't sell them anymore Frown


I'm pretty sure lkdr1898 was meaning to write vise and not vice, but then again maybe not. Razz

Brownell's is a great place to get the tools and the instruction videos.
April 16, 2019, 08:17 AM
Bisleyblackhawk
A magazine vise block makes it easier...this one reasonably priced with quick shipping...

https://www.plastixrevolution....-receiver-vise-block

A 1/4" clevis pin from the hardware store makes installing the front takedown pin a snap...

https://www.homedepot.com/p/1-...Pin-815418/204276164

As for Armorers wrenches just be aware that the Magpul wrench will not work on a pistol buffer tube (if you choose to use a pistol tube over the rifle) because of the larger diameter of the tube...the Magpul is not open ended...I've got the Tapco wrench and it works fine...

https://www.brownells.com/guns...-tool-prod54530.aspx

The two piece punch set that PorterN mentioned earlier works well for installing the bolt catch...the ones I have are plastic coated but I still use blue painters masking tape to protect the lower's finish as an extra precaution...

https://www.amazon.com/Wheeler...858&s=gateway&sr=8-5


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April 16, 2019, 03:00 PM
4x5
Thank you for the links - very helpful.



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April 16, 2019, 08:34 PM
shovelhead
A large Ziplock bag to assemble the lower in. Helps to contain any parts that want to leap out during installation.


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April 17, 2019, 07:14 PM
walker77
Get the magpul wrench. Its worth the money.

Put some electrical tape on the lower when you tap in the roll pin for the bolt catch. It will prevent the lower from getting scratched.

Be careful when you install the trigger guard. The little ears that the roll pin goes in are known to break.
April 17, 2019, 07:50 PM
JWF
A one gallon ziplock bag. You will thank me.

Opps, sorry shovelhead, I scanned the replies a little to quickly.


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April 17, 2019, 08:08 PM
Strambo
I'd suggest as a minimum a good set of punches, a gunsmith hammer and a castle nut wrench. I use my punch set, gunsmith hammer anytime I work on any gun.

Extra credit for the Magpul wrench and an upper/lower vice block set. I also use a set of screw driver and allen tips made for gunsmithing all the time.

I stake my castle nuts 'cause it's easy and why not? I just use a pointed center punch and whack it a bunch with my gunsmith hammer which is a bit light for the job, but it won't over-do it!

I've assembled a bunch of lowers, but each time I do, I don;t rely on memory. I pull up a youtube video to make 100% sure I'm doing certain steps right.




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April 17, 2019, 09:42 PM
hrcjon
For me the minimum tools necessary is something to do the grip screw. That's pretty hard to overcome. Normally its a screwdriver, but it may be an allen wrench. I've done it with nothing but a screwdriver.
After that everything else can be improvised.
Me I'm happy with 1. a punch 2. a small hammer 3. something 1/4"od with a hole for the takedown pin (*I make these, but a clevis pin works).


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April 18, 2019, 11:46 PM
pillboxesghost
If you are going to buy a castle nut wrench; please look at the Hammerhead brand wrench. It's the best I've seen/used!

I also make most of my lower receiver tools (have a mill and lathe). I've made a bunch of most helpful but not really necessary AR assembly tools. For instance, made a press to install the trigger guard pin, etc. However, i'll never break a t. guard ear

If you're sure you'll never ever,ever do but one lower --- then by all means go the slow tedious "improvised tool" route.

Acquire the "proper" tools and make lower receiver assembly a swift, sure, frustration free process! You will reduce the danger of scratching/scarring your receiver too.

Yes, assembly can be made with absolutely no special tools and a great deal of patience and improvisation/ingenuity!

Best of luck,whichever way you go.


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April 19, 2019, 08:44 AM
Rustpot
Forward Controls castle nut wrench is my go-to. Its a 2- and 3-prong wrench to fit bare castle nuts or those partially blocked by a larger end plate/QD setup. It's a smaller tool to be used with a breaker bar or torque wrench.

I have one of the generic AR combo wrenches that I used for several years before getting the one from Forward Controls, it's garbage in comparison.

http://www.forwardcontrolsdesi...ut-Wrench_p_129.html
April 19, 2019, 11:01 AM
gearhounds
quote:
Put some electrical tape on the lower when you tap in the roll pin for the bolt catch. It will prevent the lower from getting scratched.

VERY important if you don't want your first project to look like your first project. Don't be shy; protect everything from the bolt catch projection to the rear where the buffer tube screws in.

Staking can be accomplished by any hardened steel tool with an appropriately sized tip. A punch will do fine, but if you want it to look like a factory job, by all means buy a staking tool.




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