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CZ Bren 2 MS Carbine

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May 18, 2020, 08:15 PM
onpointgun
CZ Bren 2 MS Carbine
So I have been waiting for the Bren 2 Carbine to hit the market and I finally picked it up last Friday. I have to say my first impression is very solid. I put maybe 300 rounds down range hassle free. I personally think this rifle has all the good things from the original Bren and Scar but was able to improve on them. Thew new rifle is 1 lb lighter than the original with a non-reciprocating charging handle and very improved bolt release. The trigger out of the box is fantastic at just under 4lbs. The barrel has a heavier profile than the pencil barrel on the original.

Bren 2 Link


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May 18, 2020, 08:23 PM
apprentice
Proprietary mags yes/no?
May 18, 2020, 08:25 PM
onpointgun
quote:
Originally posted by apprentice:
Proprietary mags yes/no?


Nope any GI magazine works


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May 18, 2020, 08:45 PM
hrcjon
Depends on caliber. 5.56 is GI. 7.62x39 is proprietary. I didn't know the carbine had arrived. I have the pistols and its pretty nice overall. Some fussing needed to deal with slop in the buffer tube fitment for the brace, but overall not too much to complain about.


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May 18, 2020, 09:00 PM
onpointgun
quote:
Originally posted by hrcjon:
Depends on caliber. 5.56 is GI. 7.62x39 is proprietary. I didn't know the carbine had arrived. I have the pistols and its pretty nice overall. Some fussing needed to deal with slop in the buffer tube fitment for the brace, but overall not too much to complain about.


The 7.62x39 carbine hasn't been released yet.


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May 19, 2020, 12:06 AM
Nick
I’ve been waiting for this rifle to be released here ever since it was announced.


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May 19, 2020, 06:34 AM
onpointgun
quote:
Originally posted by Nick:
I’ve been waiting for this rifle to be released here ever since it was announced.


I have been waiting for the Bren 2 in 7.62x51.


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any adversary that attempts to tread on my freedom. You've been warned, but if you
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May 19, 2020, 09:19 AM
DaBigBR
I grabbed one of the pistols and SBRed it last summer. I agree with all of your assessments. Really well made, smooth, reliable gun. I'll probably buy a 7.62x39 one this year.
May 19, 2020, 09:32 AM
RogueJSK
quote:
Originally posted by onpointgun:
I have been waiting for the Bren 2 in 7.62x51.


Wow.



One of the things near the top of my Want List is a .308 semiauto that takes PMAGs. And I'm a little bored with the traditional AR platform, so I had been eyeing a SCAR 17s with a replacement lower, but the price is a bit tough to swallow.

I'm definitely going to have to keep an eye out for this.

Unfortunately, it's only currently available in select fire to LE agencies. Let's hope they come out with a semiauto version soon.

(Or maybe I need to see about getting one for my agency to T&E. Wink )
May 19, 2020, 09:37 AM
onpointgun
quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
quote:
Originally posted by onpointgun:
I have been waiting for the Bren 2 in 7.62x51.


Wow.



One of the things near the top of my Want List is a .308 semiauto that takes PMAGs. And I'm a little bored with the traditional AR platform, so I had been eyeing a SCAR 17s with a replacement lower, but the price is a bit tough to swallow.

I'm definitely going to have to keep an eye out for this.



It looks like the perfect rifle to me with what I am guessing is going to be about 1K cheaper than the Scar.


I will be swift in my attack. My venom is packed with enough pride and gun powder to take down
any adversary that attempts to tread on my freedom. You've been warned, but if you
still want to test me, take a step forward.
May 19, 2020, 02:33 PM
Slippery Pete
I'm waiting on that 7.62 also. See how it stacks up to the SCAR.


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May 19, 2020, 02:48 PM
hrcjon
Slippery Pete this is not even on your AR10 list? Are you trying to sneak another one in, or starting another list? In any case I can't imagine that there is anything in it that is a SCAR 17 killer unless its like 1/2 the price, but we shall see. I do like the bren2 in 5.56, but realistically its not as good as the 16.Smile


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May 19, 2020, 03:41 PM
redlickranch
They are sweet looking rifles.


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May 19, 2020, 03:51 PM
Loswsmith
quote:
Originally posted by onpointgun:
quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
quote:
Originally posted by onpointgun:
I have been waiting for the Bren 2 in 7.62x51.


Wow.

One of the things near the top of my Want List is a .308 semiauto that takes PMAGs. And I'm a little bored with the traditional AR platform, so I had been eyeing a SCAR 17s with a replacement lower, but the price is a bit tough to swallow.

I'm definitely going to have to keep an eye out for this.



It looks like the perfect rifle to me with what I am guessing is going to be about 1K cheaper than the Scar.


I HATE THIS STUPID PLACE!!!! Now there's another $2000 down the crapper as I save for this gun that I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW EXISTED until opening this stupid thread!!


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May 19, 2020, 06:35 PM
onpointgun
quote:
Originally posted by hrcjon:
Slippery Pete this is not even on your AR10 list? Are you trying to sneak another one in, or starting another list? In any case I can't imagine that there is anything in it that is a SCAR 17 killer unless its like 1/2 the price, but we shall see. I do like the bren2 in 5.56, but realistically its not as good as the 16.Smile


I have 2 Scar 16's and if this rifle doesn't have any problems over the next 1000+ rounds I will say its better in my modest opinion.


I will be swift in my attack. My venom is packed with enough pride and gun powder to take down
any adversary that attempts to tread on my freedom. You've been warned, but if you
still want to test me, take a step forward.
May 19, 2020, 06:43 PM
PorterN
I SBR’d my Bren 2 11” pistol and love it. The Carbine is a smart choice for those not interested in the pistol variants for any such reason. The stock i got for my SBR is the Bren BR stock (before they announced the MS Carbine, since the MS Carbine has the BR stock). I really like it. The whole system works very well, and i continue to be impressed by it and enjoy it immensely.



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May 19, 2020, 07:05 PM
ersatzknarf
quote:



I HATE THIS STUPID PLACE!!!! Now there's another $2000 down the crapper as I save for this gun that I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW EXISTED until opening this stupid thread!!





Welcome, friend. Smile

Do not feel alone!

This is probably the most overlooked section of the waiver. That and which are the approved cleaners for the unitard.

On a brighter note, it'll be a while yet before the 7.62 version gets here Wink

Oh, and I want one too!




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May 19, 2020, 07:39 PM
hrcjon
quote:
I will say its better in my modest opinion

Would be interesting to hear exactly what specifically is better. I've shot my bren2's a bunch and while they are nice I wouldn't trade a scar for one at least in the current situation...


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May 19, 2020, 07:59 PM
onpointgun
quote:
Originally posted by hrcjon:
quote:
I will say its better in my modest opinion

Would be interesting to hear exactly what specifically is better. I've shot my bren2's a bunch and while they are nice I wouldn't trade a scar for one at least in the current situation...


One of the biggest benefits of the Bren 2 over the Scar so far is the non-reciprocating charging handle. Stay tuned for more benefits after I have some more time with it.


I will be swift in my attack. My venom is packed with enough pride and gun powder to take down
any adversary that attempts to tread on my freedom. You've been warned, but if you
still want to test me, take a step forward.
May 20, 2020, 06:36 AM
PGT
I had planned to get a 14” and pin/weld a KeyMo mount and add a stock but with the release of the carbine, I’ll go that way. Waiting to see how prices settle in. Looks to be about $1849 right now