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Experiences With Or Thoughts On Kel-Tec SUB2000 Gen. 2?

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April 03, 2019, 09:55 AM
ensigmatic
Experiences With Or Thoughts On Kel-Tec SUB2000 Gen. 2?
A buddy spotted this behind the counter at a a LGS & range last week: Kel-Tec SUB2000 (Gen. 2)

It seems kind of cool, and possibly quite handy. Anybody here with any experience with them?

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April 03, 2019, 10:00 AM
dusty3030
Trigger isn't target quality but they run well, shoot straight, super compact, and use relatively inexpensive easy to find Glock 33rd mags.
April 03, 2019, 10:30 AM
x0225095
Mine has been out a couple of times....cool little gun. I picked mine up for under $400. Mine runs Glock 17 mags. Works as advertised. I installed a few M*Carbo upgrade parts....e.g., recoilless/weighted bolt handle, recoil spring tube sleeve, recoil spring buffer, compensator. Like I said, pretty cool.

Just saw that M*Carbo is offering version that has been tricked out with their upgrades directly at the kel-tec factory. $725 and done.

https://www.mcarbo.com/kel-tec...-2-9mm-for-sale.aspx

M*Carbo upgrade parts are the real deal.

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April 03, 2019, 10:32 AM
arfmel
Pro tip: don’t let your long, flowing beard get caught in the operating handle.
April 03, 2019, 10:35 AM
dusty3030
quote:
Originally posted by arfmel:
Pro tip: don’t let your long, flowing beard get caught in the operating handle.


I'd pay good money to watch that video.
April 03, 2019, 12:44 PM
RNshooter
Mine is a Gen 1. I like it.
The ability to tart it up with Mlok stuff is a useful change.

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April 03, 2019, 12:49 PM
PASig
I have one that takes Beretta magazines and my Dad has one that takes Glock mags. Both are 9mm

I love it, it's a cool little carbine and shoots pretty well for me.

Added an extended (two-finger) charging handle from MCARBO that made a huge difference and currently have a red dot scope on it that sits above the iron sights.

If I could find any fault with it, it would be the stock iron sights which are too low for me and force me to get an awkward and slightly uncomfortable cheek weld. With a riser and the red dot, that issue is gone.


April 03, 2019, 03:50 PM
arcwelder
Could you please be more specific in the title of your thread?


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April 03, 2019, 08:25 PM
remsig
I'm not sure what improvements were made on the 2nd gen; but I have a 1st gen that takes Glock mags and I love it.

I have a CZ Scorpion as well and have left the CZ in the safe ever since I bought the Kel Tec.

I've fired about 500 - 600 rounds through it and have had 0 issues at all.


April 03, 2019, 10:16 PM
PASig
quote:
Originally posted by remsig:
I'm not sure what improvements were made on the 2nd gen; but I have a 1st gen that takes Glock mags and I love it.

I have a CZ Scorpion as well and have left the CZ in the safe ever since I bought the Kel Tec.

I've fired about 500 - 600 rounds through it and have had 0 issues at all.



I’m confused here. You state you have a Gen 1 but your picture clearly shows a Gen 2?


April 03, 2019, 10:21 PM
PASig
Here is my 9mm Beretta magazine version. I love the OD green:




April 03, 2019, 11:00 PM
bubbatime
I have have the first gen that takes Smith 5906 mags (since converted to P226 mags)

It's cool. Don't really use it for anything. But it's cool.


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April 04, 2019, 04:16 AM
remsig
quote:
Originally posted by PASig:
quote:
Originally posted by remsig:
I'm not sure what improvements were made on the 2nd gen; but I have a 1st gen that takes Glock mags and I love it.

I have a CZ Scorpion as well and have left the CZ in the safe ever since I bought the Kel Tec.

I've fired about 500 - 600 rounds through it and have had 0 issues at all.


I’m confused here. You state you have a Gen 1 but your picture clearly shows a Gen 2?


If it's a gen 2 I had no no idea; I just assumed it was a gen 1. I bought it a year ago. What is the difference between 1 and 2?
April 04, 2019, 08:50 AM
PASig
quote:
Originally posted by remsig:

If it's a gen 2 I had no no idea; I just assumed it was a gen 1. I bought it a year ago. What is the difference between 1 and 2?



Gen 1 was pre-2015 or so and looked a little different than Gen 2, things like no Picatinny rails, etc




April 04, 2019, 09:44 AM
ensigmatic
Asked this primarily for my buddy's benefit, as he's interested in one. (Don't recall what his intended use was.)

I think they're cool, and it'd be neat to have one based on that, alone, but I have other firearm priorities that are well ahead of it.



"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe
"If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher
April 04, 2019, 06:18 PM
remsig
Thank you for clarifying PASig. Sorry for hijacking your thread ensigmatic.

I think I paid $430 for mine and the Glock mags are around $30 - $35. The rifle is fun to shoot, folds up pretty small and I don't have to baby it like I do my USC because I didn't pay a lot for it. My friend HATES it but that makes me like it even more Big Grin
April 05, 2019, 08:02 AM
kimberkid
It sort of reminds me of "The Linda" (updated for the 21st century) or maybe a grown up survival 22 ... I don't see how anyone could prefer it over a Scorpion ... I've yet found any KelTec that didn't feel cheap and un-finished ...

What's the attraction?


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... if you don't you'll find an excuse.

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April 05, 2019, 09:31 AM
RichardC
Folded, they'll fit in very non-tactical appearing computer notebook carrying cases.

quote:
Originally posted by kimberkid:
I've yet found any KelTec that didn't feel cheap and un-finished ...

What's the attraction?


Well, one of the attractions is, posting about your own KelTec baits in Keltec-haters like wearing a MAGA hat in Starbucks baits the commies. ( Just sayin', don' mean nuthin'mean, Wink )


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April 05, 2019, 06:55 PM
remsig
quote:
Originally posted by kimberkid:
It sort of reminds me of "The Linda" (updated for the 21st century) or maybe a grown up survival 22 ... I don't see how anyone could prefer it over a Scorpion ... I've yet found any KelTec that didn't feel cheap and un-finished ...

What's the attraction?


Perhaps not everyone dislikes Kel-Tec like you Confused
April 05, 2019, 07:03 PM
Ronin101
gen 2 has two picatinny rails top and bottom and mlok on the sides. threaded barrel for a suppressor!!!

Be aware that there was a recall on gen 2's because of a improperly heatr rtreated barrel. so check with the company and make sure that it isnt one covered on the recall.

I had to send mine back before I ever fired a round. I found a package deal on mcarbo parts and upgrafed everything. The biggest upgrade would be the trigger and the metal trigger guard. I will be putting some rounds through it this summer and we will see how the accuarcy is!!!