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September 13, 2020, 08:24 PM
Black92LX
Cheapest American Made Red Dot?
Just looking for something simple to pop on a Ruger 10/22 to do some plinking.


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September 13, 2020, 09:16 PM
RogueJSK
The only Made in USA red dots that I can think of are the Trijicon and Leupold offerings, and they're not cheap.

All of the cheaper red dots are going to be made in China, including Holosun, Sig, Bushnell, Primary Arms, Vortex, etc.
September 14, 2020, 02:50 PM
mojojojo
Having recently been in the market for a Red Dot I read various sources about them. Here's an article on cheap Red Dots - can't say if they're American made but they're cheap enough that one might fit what you're looking for.

Red Dots under $100



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September 15, 2020, 04:02 PM
captain127
Sadly American made optics of any sort and especially red dots are mostly a thing of the past unless you want to spend big money.
Trijicon and leupold Az mentioned I am not sure if crimson trace optic products are made in USA either. Aimpoint is Swedish and the vast majority of optics are made in China, though some vortex and high end athlon brands are made in Japan or Philippines
September 15, 2020, 04:18 PM
hrcjon
OK its not american, but just get an Aimpoint. I know it sounds silly but they literally last forever. I have 20+ yo aimpoints that I use on lesser projects like a plinker 10/22. Still run mint and work just the same as any modern red dot. This whole chinese optic idea needs to stop. and the net extra upfront investment versus to buy some chinese crap will be returned year after year.


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September 15, 2020, 09:42 PM
RogueJSK
quote:
Originally posted by hrcjon:
This whole chinese optic idea needs to stop. and the net extra upfront investment versus to buy some chinese crap will be returned year after year.


I would never use them on a gun intended for serious use, but cheap Chinese red dots have their place. I use them on my fun guns, intended for range use only. The OP's plinker 10/22 is a perfect rifle for one; there's no need to spring for an Aimpoint for that.

I've had excellent results from the Primary Arms red dots over the years, all of which are made in China. I've owned about 7 of them over the last decade plus. (I think my oldest one is from like 2009 or so.) And they've been great and utterly reliable, on my range guns. Plus I haven't spent more than about $120 on any of them, and that's only on the fanciest couple, with most of them being earlier models that I got for like $60-$80 each several years ago.

So for the price of one Aimpoint (which is what I use on my all serious-use rifles), the cheapest of which run you ~$400, I outfitted like 4 or 5 plinkers with cheap red dots.

I'm all for "buy once, cry once" when it matters. But on a 10/22 plinker, it just doesn't matter.
September 16, 2020, 11:08 AM
c_zielsdorf
Just buy a used Aimpoint PRO. Not American, but honestly better than the American made offerings.


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September 16, 2020, 12:44 PM
monoblok
C-more still manufactures their red dots here. Not dirt cheap pricing like the Bushnell TRS-25, bottom-feeding TruGlo crap or any of the countless no-name units on Amazon, eBay or other questionable sources. But definitely less costly than Trijicon or Leupold. Their Railway series start at a little above $200, most places. Highly regarded, especially for use on a plinker 22LR rifle.

As for Primary's red dots; I see that they almost always get great reviews. But the one time I tried one (bought new about 5 yrs ago at Rainier Arms, of all places), that POS stunk it up to high heaven. It held zero fine but would refuse to stay on with recoil. At first I thought it might be the fitting of the battery, but via switch it would come back on every time, no jostling needed. But take another shot, instant off. Might have been a one-off defective (or not), but for sure it certainly was made in the PRC. Then tried it on my 15-22; performed a little better there. Only shuts off every 6th to 10th shot. Yeah, like I'm willing to try another of Primary's optics ever again.


-MG
September 16, 2020, 04:25 PM
mrapteam666
I believe U.S. optics products are made in the USA

I wish I would have got one of their Red dots to try when I was in AFG.

I bought a Meopta MRAD and had it shipped to me.
I liked it but it was a tad too small and a little fragile for MRAP dismount work.

I think I just took to my Aimpoint CompM4 but now the prices are insane.
September 16, 2020, 06:49 PM
Black92LX
The US Optics TSR-1X looks like it may fit the bill.
Not silly expensive
https://www.usoptics.com/product/tsr-1x/


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September 16, 2020, 07:05 PM
benny6
Anyone try the Leupold LCO? Kind of pricey, but curious to see if anyone has any input on it. It's in the same price range as the Aimpoint.

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September 16, 2020, 07:58 PM
David W
quote:
Originally posted by Black92LX:
The US Optics TSR-1X looks like it may fit the bill.
Not silly expensive
https://www.usoptics.com/product/tsr-1x/


Honestly not sure they are made here, assembled yes, on their website they don’t out right say “made in USA” they kinda dance around it.


David W.

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September 17, 2020, 06:40 AM
redlickranch
I have been looking at one of the Leupold RDS (Red Dot Site) myself. But may be a bit much for a 22.

https://www.leupold.com/scopes...red-dot-sight-1x34mm


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September 17, 2020, 06:58 AM
benny6
quote:
Originally posted by redlickranch:
I have been looking at one of the Leupold RDS (Red Dot Site) myself. But may be a bit much for a 22.

https://www.leupold.com/scopes...red-dot-sight-1x34mm


True, but I intend to put it on a AR pistol I just built. I can't find any other red dot in stock through my distributors. Aimpoint and the Trijicon MRO are nowhere to be found. The only quality red-dot I can find in stock is the Leupold RDS, but I haven't heard anything about them.

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September 17, 2020, 07:18 AM
RogueJSK
Worth a watch...


September 17, 2020, 11:30 AM
David W
That Leupold rd is fugly too, who designed it and for who were they thinking about? The price point is about Aimpoint, so if you are going to compete with the best at least try.


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September 17, 2020, 11:52 AM
RogueJSK
quote:
Originally posted by David W:
who designed it and for who were they thinking about?


Apparently they are going after the "stuck in 90s" segment of the shooting market. Big Grin

My first thought when I saw it was that it looked like the early pre-Comp Aimpoint red dot models from the 1990s, like the 2000/3000/5000/7000/etc., sometimes seen in use with high speed guys on carry handle carbines.






September 17, 2020, 05:14 PM
Black92LX
Guess I am weird. I find the aesthetics of the Leupold far more appealing that something like the US Optics I posted earlier.

Though the rear lens popping off like that is not good.


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September 18, 2020, 07:31 AM
David W
I guess in 15 years or so the Leupold will be where Aimpoint is now Big Grin


David W.

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September 18, 2020, 08:44 AM
benny6
quote:
Originally posted by Black92LX:
Guess I am weird. I find the aesthetics of the Leupold far more appealing that something like the US Optics I posted earlier.

Though the rear lens popping off like that is not good.


That was disheartening to see. Especially since their headquarters and my job are only separated by 500 feet with a freeway between us. We've had some optics engineers from my company work for them before. I wanted so badly to like that red dot.

And for the price of the other red dot, the LCO, I may as well get an Aimpoint when they're available.

I noticed American Defense has a reasonably priced red dot called the SPEK, but they don't say where it's made.

https://www.americandefenseman...oduct-p/rd-t1-lo.htm

Tony.

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