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Hey all-

I have recently seen some surplus IDF Galil kits on the market. It got me thinking that I might like to have myself a Galil to add to the collection.
I reached out to IWI to see if they would build one. No dice.
I reached out to Arsenal, since they build great AKs and the Galil is a Valmet/AK design. No way. They only work on their stuff.

So, who does that leave? Who would be best to give a project like this to?

Bruce




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https://www.hillbillyfirearms.com/

He helped me with a problem over the phone, no charge. Excellent rep on the Uzi board.
 
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Jeff at hillbilly firearms. I have an actual Preban Galil ARM. I’ve seen some of his work. It’s excellent.
 
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Jeff @ Hillbilly, GMFH, Troy @ InRange or Two Rivers....all know good builders.
 
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Yeah, but Jeff is the name that keeps coming up, and not just here.
 
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I talked to him on the phone....he rattled off stuff I needed faster than I could write it down and thoroughly confused me in the process since a) I had a complete kit and b) had a receiver. YMMV
 
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Troy at In-Range is a buddy of mine and I worked there for 5 years. Hes a big fan of these kits and I THINK he said CNC Warrior?? reciever
 
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https://www.primaryarms.com/at...-receiver-556-18.5in

Great info. I wonder if the ATI receivers above are any good?


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Every day, the New York Times carries a motto in a box on its front page. "All the News That's Fit to Print," it says. It's been saying it for decades, day in and day out. I imagine most readers of the canonical sheet have long ceased to notice this bannered and flaunted symbol of its mental furniture. I myself check every day to make sure that the bright, smug, pompous, idiotic claim is still there. Then I check to make sure that it still irritates me. If I can still exclaim, under my breath, why do they insult me and what do they take me for and what the hell is it supposed to mean unless it's as obviously complacent and conceited and censorious as it seems to be, then at least I know I still have a pulse. You may wish to choose a more rigorous mental workout but I credit this daily infusion of annoyance with extending my lifespan. -Christopher Hitchens

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child — miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats."
-PJ O'Rourke
“It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free."
-Niccolo Machiavelli

 
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It looks like Arizona Response Systems also does Galil builds.

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Every day, the New York Times carries a motto in a box on its front page. "All the News That's Fit to Print," it says. It's been saying it for decades, day in and day out. I imagine most readers of the canonical sheet have long ceased to notice this bannered and flaunted symbol of its mental furniture. I myself check every day to make sure that the bright, smug, pompous, idiotic claim is still there. Then I check to make sure that it still irritates me. If I can still exclaim, under my breath, why do they insult me and what do they take me for and what the hell is it supposed to mean unless it's as obviously complacent and conceited and censorious as it seems to be, then at least I know I still have a pulse. You may wish to choose a more rigorous mental workout but I credit this daily infusion of annoyance with extending my lifespan. -Christopher Hitchens

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child — miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats."
-PJ O'Rourke
“It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free."
-Niccolo Machiavelli

 
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Troy at In-Range is a buddy of mine and I worked there for 5 years. Hes a big fan of these kits and I THINK he said CNC Warrior?? reciever


CNC Warrior and TortTort are the only two he'll build on is what I recall
 
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CNC Warrior and TortTort are the only two he'll build on is what I recall[/QUOTE]

yeah, TortTort was the other that I couldn't remember.
 
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This really is a no brainer-Jeff Miller is the standard by which all others try to emulate. Jeff has tons of parts, turns barrels and can build Galils in all configurations and multiple calibers. His attention to detail and craftsmanship is unmatched.
 
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This really is a no brainer-Jeff Miller is the standard by which all others try to emulate. Jeff has tons of parts, turns barrels and can build Galils in all configurations and multiple calibers. His attention to detail and craftsmanship is unmatched.


he's also double the price but if you want one engraved with proper hebrew markings, he's the guy to do it
 
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Pricey is right.
Adding up all the parts with his build price, it's looking like a minimum of $2500.
I wonder if one of his builds is considered "superior" to an intact pre-ban IMI built.

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Every day, the New York Times carries a motto in a box on its front page. "All the News That's Fit to Print," it says. It's been saying it for decades, day in and day out. I imagine most readers of the canonical sheet have long ceased to notice this bannered and flaunted symbol of its mental furniture. I myself check every day to make sure that the bright, smug, pompous, idiotic claim is still there. Then I check to make sure that it still irritates me. If I can still exclaim, under my breath, why do they insult me and what do they take me for and what the hell is it supposed to mean unless it's as obviously complacent and conceited and censorious as it seems to be, then at least I know I still have a pulse. You may wish to choose a more rigorous mental workout but I credit this daily infusion of annoyance with extending my lifespan. -Christopher Hitchens

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child — miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats."
-PJ O'Rourke
“It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free."
-Niccolo Machiavelli

 
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people claim that when they try to sell them, that's for sure. More attention to detail on parts fit and precision definitely matters but it's not a LR bolt gun and was never intended to be.

If Marcolmar can build a better CETME L for $1400, wonder why nobody can do it on the Galil platform.
 
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Something about the Galils make them not the easiest thing to build. Heat treat issues being the main problem I think, and catastrophic at that. I bought a Golani the month they were released, and the ejector got bent. I was told heat treat was bad, and it was screwed. Traded it and a couple other things into a Galil 386. One of the finest firearms I've even had my hands on. Sold it and hate that, but it's obsolete in a lot of ways. As one member put it, " a 556 that weighs in like a Garand." Big Grin

Anyway, one of my grail guns is a Galil SAR.

All that to say, back in my Galil days on Uzitalk, Jeff is the undisputed heavyweight champ for building Galils. I would trust ARS, or Inrange to build them, but he had a bunch of older ORF receiver Galils, and plenty had heat treat issues or other issues. Same with century who switched receivers to Capsian. If my memory is right the originals were ORF receivers some good a lot not good. Similiar story to the Inrange stuff. Kind of a roll of the dice to buy one.

The original Galil is an overbuilt tank that will be around with the roaches after the nuclear winters clear. The closest thing you will find to that, is one Jeff built. What you pay for with him I believe, is the knowing for sure your receiver will be right, and the build will be flawless.

I want another Galil so bad. Big Grin


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ARS is not currently doing Galil builds. I have a tax stamped SAR arriving tomorrow from Jeff at Hillbilly. Process was just over a year, but he needed to source a couple of parts for me. Communication was always there, and the pictures look amazing. He's not inexpensive, but the best aren't. When it gets here, I'll compare it to my preban.


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I am definitely going with Jeff and a Tortor receiver.
Time to start shopping for that and a parts kit.

Thanks!

Bruce




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"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child — miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats."
-PJ O'Rourke
“It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free."
-Niccolo Machiavelli

 
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I haven't shopped around for kits recently so there may be better deals out there but, FWIW, Numrich still has some.
 
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ARS is not currently doing Galil builds. I have a tax stamped SAR arriving tomorrow from Jeff at Hillbilly. Process was just over a year, but he needed to source a couple of parts for me. Communication was always there, and the pictures look amazing. He's not inexpensive, but the best aren't. When it gets here, I'll compare it to my preban.


PLEASE be sure to put some pics up. I've had Galil fever lately, and the SAR is perfection. Congrats to you sir.

What receiver did you use?


OP I was looking at a couple SAR kits the other day on Gunbroker. Didn't seem too bad but the barrel wasn't there. How does one solve getting an IMI barrel? Are they out there?


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