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IndianaBoy, could you share the name of that sight?


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I would suggest he option out several different directions and weigh his preferences...


This is slightly over budget. He could go with a lesser optic and still be fine. Or he could buy half as many magazines and half a case of ammo. He will need to source a local stripped lower for this option. $40-$50...


Nice example IndianaBoy.

I think the rifle below is very similar to one I brought a year or two ago. Its the only non-chromed lined rifle I have. It is nitride coated inside and out though. It is also my favorite in terms of balance - just something about how it feels in my hands.

https://palmettostatearmory.co...-lok-rail-black.html
 
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Its the only non-chromed lined rifle I have. It is nitride coated inside and out though.

For the OP:
Having a chrome lined barrel is a personal choice, depending on the shooting needs. Chrome lining noticeably increases the life of the barrel, because chrome is harder than the steels used in barrels. Chrome is a surface coating, and thus changes the dimensions of the bore and the chamber -- making them slightly smaller. A barrel to be chrome lined should have slightly larger internal dimensions prior to being lined than one that will not be chrome lined.

Nitride coating is another method of hardening the steel's interior surfaces. Nitriding does this without adding a layer to the steel, and thus a different size chamber/bore isn't required for a barrel that will be nitrided. I don't know if there have been any definite tests which compare the effective life of nitrided versus chrome lined barrels.

Chrome lined barrels are well known for having worse accuracy than unlined barrels. This is almost certainly due to inconsistencies in applying the chrome lining. Depending on the shooter's needs, these accuracy differences may be inconsequential. I am not aware of accuracy issues with nitrided barrels. Also, when the chrome eventually flakes off the interior of a chrome lined barrel, accuracy goes south really fast and is quite noticeable.

For the majority of shooters this whole wrangling over barrel life is a moot point. Most AR owners never shoot a single AR enough over the course of their lifetime to wear out a barrel. Furthermore, if the AR owner isn't concerned about gnat's ass accuracy at extended distances, a little less accuracy due to barrel wear may not be noticed.
 
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IndianaBoy, could you share the name of that sight?


Palmetto State Armory.

I have been running a rifle hard, suppressed, with a PSA bolt carrier group and barrel, for quite a while now.

It is not as accurate as my more expensive barrels, but I have shot 10" steel plates out to 600 yards with it.
 
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If you've ever had a chrome lined bore and the chrome lining starts to detach from the surface, accuracy goes to shit real quick. I've had it happen more than once.


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If money is really an issue, you can't go wrong with a PSA rifle.

If you do have a few bucks to spend, I would look at the following (in no particular order):

Colt 6920 --- > there are some around; Arms Unlimted has them for $975 (and as of this post, it is in stock)...

BCM4

Daniel Defense

LMT


If you really want to spend some cash...there's Noveske and LaRue.

If the person in question can, save up some money and purchase a rifle from a known quality maker. Chrome bore and chamber, 4150 steel barrel, etc.

***Next, invest in ammo and magazines (minimum 10 magazines per rifle; more if you plan on training).

***Red dot or low power optic...buy once, cry once: Aimpoint, Trijicon, etc.

***TRAINING!!! At the very least, a one-day carbine class will do volumes for the shooter.


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I’d wait until a few hundred more is saved up and get a BCM or DD. Or a colt 6920 or 6720.


That's what I would does well.
 
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I think BCM make a great rifle right around that price point.

As some others have mentioned, save a little more for a better rifle. I can't tell you how many guns and tools I've bought the lower priced one and later bought what I really wanted.
 
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I just bought a Ruger MPR,Great trigger,Magul hardware and a nice fore arm. Bought Magpul MBUS sights,a BCM 3 charging handle and will throw a Vortex Strikefire 2 scope on it. Less than 1k$ into it.
 
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Spikes Tactical mid-length and a red dot and flashlight would be a good option.

I would have said a Colt 6720 pencil barrel carbine but they impossible to find now.


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BCM would be a great choice at that price point. I have a rifle with a lower I put together with a PSA lower build kit and a BCM upper that shoots better than I do. It's a 16" mid-length upper with an MLOK rail and it's fantastic.
 
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Palmetto has the SW Sport 2 for $519 shipped. It simply cannot be beat for the dollars spent.


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