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Anyone with first hand knowledge about the Kaiser US AR pattern rifles?

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February 10, 2021, 03:44 PM
hrcjon
Anyone with first hand knowledge about the Kaiser US AR pattern rifles?
What particular mount are you looking for?


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February 11, 2021, 08:41 AM
lyman
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Originally posted by Loswsmith:
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Originally posted by Gibb:
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Originally posted by Loswsmith:
I'm assuming COVID madness on their rifle prices. Mostly wondering about fit, handling, function. I'm having a right shoulder issue and weight is a big thing for me now.


If you already own an AR, you'd be better off buying lightweight accessories for your rifle than to buy this, IMO.

Are you a right-handed shooter? With a proper sling setup, most of the weight should be on the left arm. The right shoulder would only be taking on the recoil, which this rifle could make worse.

If you are a Lefty, I would work on shooting supported (prone, or against fixed support).

As I said before, their bolt was very nice, but looking close at those photos of the receiver would make me hesitate before buying sight unseen.


That's a good point that totally slipped me. The lighter gun would recoil more, which whould hurt my shoulder more. I had gotten rid of my .223 to concentrate on .308 but do have a AR Lower that I can build up. Thanks for the rightminding on this.


what style shooting are you doing?


you can build up a moderately heavy AR, and if you reload, (and depending on the distance you shoot) load some lighter bullets (52 gr SMK's for example) if you reload,

I shot 52's for a bit in a Service Rifle (14lbs) and recoil was nothing



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February 11, 2021, 02:48 PM
Loswsmith
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Originally posted by hrcjon:
What particular mount are you looking for?


I have a .308 51T (not sure the style) and at this point was looking for any 51T in 5.56 that will take the SDN-6.


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February 11, 2021, 02:51 PM
Loswsmith
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Originally posted by lyman:

what style shooting are you doing?


Mainly run/gun stuff. Tactical classes and local 3 gun matches.


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February 12, 2021, 12:53 AM
DoctorSolo
An adjustable gas block can help fine tune the recoil impulse too.

If the gun is over-gassed, it can have an unnecessarily harsh impulse.
February 12, 2021, 08:08 PM
kimberkid
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Originally posted by Loswsmith:
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Originally posted by Oat_Action_Man:
A muzzle brake is what will help mitigate recoil.


I've been looking at the JP type recoil eliminators like these: https://www.jprifles.com/1.4.3...php?menu_select=jpre

I put one of those on an AR I put together for Varmints, in a 223 recoil is almost non-existent and on a 308 its like a AR without a break and still no muzzle rise ... I however its not friendly to those sitting/standing beside or behind you ...


When I first got the one for a 308, I'd had the barrel of a 700 VSSF threaded ... sighting it in on the bench, guy with a ball cap sat down at the bench next to me and the concussion blew his hat off. He moved down a couple tables but not before I told him about it and he shot a couple rounds. I had a picture of it before I changed picture hosting sites. Guess I'll have to take another or find it on my other PC.


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February 13, 2021, 06:22 PM
fritz
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Originally posted by Loswsmith:
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Originally posted by lyman:
what style shooting are you doing?

Mainly run/gun stuff. Tactical classes and local 3 gun matches.

Given this, a really heavy pig of a rifle is out. Forget a Magpul PRS stock and a 20" to 24" heavy contour barrel.

You likely prefer a 16" or 18" barrel. A medium contour, non-fluted barrel is likely the heaviest style you'll want. This slightly heavier barrel will help mitigate recoil, as compared to fluted or pencil-profile barrel.

Then it comes down to a brake or can to reduce recoil further. As I noted on the first page of this thread, it's can only for me going forward.
February 14, 2021, 09:36 AM
Loswsmith
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Originally posted by fritz:
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Originally posted by Loswsmith:
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Originally posted by lyman:
what style shooting are you doing?

Mainly run/gun stuff. Tactical classes and local 3 gun matches.

It's can only for me going forward.


I’m pretty sure that it’s time to invest in a new can. I bought the sdn-6 when it was the apex of suppressor tech but there are A LOT of new options out there.


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February 14, 2021, 01:23 PM
fritz
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Originally posted by Loswsmith:
I’m pretty sure that it’s time to invest in a new can.

Suppressors continue to evolve. There are many good options. Unfortunately, availability and lead times can be issues.

Consider your spring system as a part of recoil reduction. For a long time I just used standard recoil springs. I now have JP Silent Capture spring systems in my 18" and 20" competition rifles. After discussing my rifles with the JP rep, I ordered special H3-weight buffers. Both of these rifles are now amazingly smooth -- a definite improvement in feel over standard springs.

Pretty soon I'll order H3 Silent Springs for my 14" and 16" rifles.