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Bad Day - thanks Winchester Super X...M&P15-22 - UPDATED 11-16-09
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I suppose the longer you shoot, the greater the chance of something like this happening.
This morning I put a few mags through the m&p15-22. Had the gun a couple months, never had a problem. My brother came out with his skeeter, and a couple boxes of winchester superX he just bought at farm and fleet. Never shot the stuff before. Got halfway thru a mag of this stuff, and then BANG!!!!!!!!! I've been shooting for 21 years, and NEVER heard a .22 sound like this before. I thought a damn 9mm went off by my ear. I dropped the mag and checked my breach - the case of the bullet was shredded, and halfway out of the chamber. I was able to push it out with a barrel rod, and that's when I noticed my extractor assembly was completely gone! Blew the thing right off! Well, we shoot in a grassy area, so needless to say I couldn't find the extractor. My brother immediately emptied all of his mags with the winchester in them. Got home and stripped the gun. I can't see any damage to the breach or bolt assembly. Barrel looks good. I called S&W to get a new extractor, and I'm happy to report their CS was amazing, and they're sending me a pre-paid label to ship the entire gun back. After I explained what happened they said they wanted to go over the gun and make sure everything is alright. Now I call that service. Pics to come of the casing - got 'em on the cell and the cable's at the office. ***UPDATE*** Got my rifle back from S&W today, and am quite pleased. Not only did they fix the extractor, they shipped it back with 2 25 rnd magazines! Now that's quality service! Took her out to the farm and ran a hundred rounds with no problems. Thanks S&W! This message has been edited. Last edited by: trickedtrix, The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes....Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. |
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That's nice of S&W. From what you've said, it seems more like Winchester's fault - I'd call them also. |
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Sounds a lot like an out of battery. It will wake you up for certain. Would like to see the pics of the case.
Straight shootin! dusty |
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Yes, call Winnie and let them know what happened.
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Glad you're not hurt. Had something similar happen to me when I was 15. It was an out of battery, ended up getting part of the extractor removed from my neck.
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It does sound like it fired out of battery - the bolt not all the way closed.
That is probably not an ammo problem. ________________________________________________________ When you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk. |
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This. I have seen this happen on 22 conversions for AR-15s of several different makes. It wasn't the ammo. |
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What these guys said. Nail |
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Yes, I read about a similar incident on another forum. Hmmmmm, may be this is the achilles heel of the M&P15-22. Glad to hear that you're OK though. Like I said before.....ALL of the new .22 AR clone rifles are gonna have their issues.
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...and now here's Al with the Weather. ![]() |
Every .22 conversion for the AR-15 I use has done this except it never blew off the extractor.
___________________________________________________ Speer made Gold Dots so people could stop wondering what bullet was best. |
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I've had it happen with a Ciener 22lr conversion. Scary for sure, luckily no damage to me or the rifle.
"You have the right not to be killed..." The Clash, "Know Your Rights" |
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I have to disagree about it not being the ammo. I compared the casing to 4 other brands I shot before this happened. The casing gets just a little wider toward the rim than the other brands. The other Winchester shells from the same box seem to be ok as well, so looks like a bad shell made it into the mix. Haven't gotten any response from Winchester yet on the matter.
The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes....Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. |
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Got my rifle back today - updated original post
The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes....Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. |
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Smith and Wesson has a long history of making things right. Glad they did for you too.
_________________________ An unarmed man can only flee from evil and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it. - Col Jeff Cooper I like my meat red, my coffee black, and my guns in 45. - The Man's Creed Favorite Firearms Owned: -Ed Brown Executive Elite .45 ACP Stainless, Gen III, Novaks, Single Side Safety -Sig Sauer 226 ST 9mm x2 -Ruger Red Label 12 Gauge 30'' Skeet Model -Ever increasing in number... |
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Same thing happened to my 15-22. S&W fixed it and two free magazines. Also, if the ejector gets a little out of position, a lot of FTEs occur, sometimes leading up to a OOB.
I was using Remington Golden Bullets at the time. Others on the saw forum also have problems with the Remington GBs. |
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You measured a casing that fired out of battery and you were surprised that it was larger than normal? |
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hmm, don't recall saying I was surprised The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes....Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. |
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