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I've been meaning to do this for a loooong time.

Other range day projects seem to have taken priority.

If you have, tell about your results and recommendations, please.

Question:
Have you patterned yours with buckshot intended for hunting, competition and/or self defense?

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Yes, and fairly recently.
No, I've been meaning to get around to it for some time now
No, I won't be using a shotgun for hunting or self defense.
No, but I have patterned it with claytarget/bird hunting loads.

 


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does 20 years ago count?
 
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Yes, but you need to define "fairly recently".

However it's not my first, second, or tenth choice for SD.
 
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When all this crap in Minn. started I patterned my truck shotty (870) and my FN SLP with several flavors of shot to see the best way to load the tubes. I ended up with a nice selection of shells/patterns for near to far. From go away to toe tag time.
 
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Of course I don't have pics to produce, but as part of both my job as an LE firearms instructor and hobby as a shotgun enthusiast, I have patterned many of them. This would include a couple personal 870s (Mar Mag and Police), a 930 SPX, 590A1, Benelli M4, Beretta 1301, Winchester 1200, dozens of work 870s (18.5 inch Expresses - yuck, and now 14" SBS). Primarily beads (work guns), but also ghost rings and red dots.

For consistency and ease of ammo access in a pinch, I am using the same low recoil, nine pellet, Federal Flite Control buckshot at work and home. Pump and semi. 18.5 and 14 inch barrels. I find that with basically every gun, it's going to keep all nine pellets in a 12-15" circle, worst case, out to about 25-30 yards. Plenty workable for a person. On the best guns it might be useful to 40.

The best performance has been out of my Beretta 1301, which stays fist sized out to 20 yards or so. I have a Winchester 1200 that is probably the worst performer, getting large than torso sized around 20-25.

We have found through the roughly two dozen 14" 870 Ps we have with modified choke barrels (factory) that we get a "known flyer" in most guns past 15 yards. It's not a major issue as it is generally within a proportionate distance of the pattern as a whole, but it does happen. This is apparently common on the nine pellet load, so we will likely consider trying the eight pellet version when we get closer to exhausting our stock of nine pellet.

My general procedure is to use a couple clean targets, flipped over to provide a blank sheet, and place 4-6 pasters in a grid. One shell fired per paster, maybe two or three total per distance depending on performance. Measure from there. Replace targets as necessary and don't be stingy.
 
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Yes, when I had my duty shotgun and my own. Don't own any shotguns at this time.


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I've patterned my 870(IC choke) with Federal Tactical Buckshot. Pretty nice coverage from about 7-15 yards. Inside that was a slug, beyond had more than half the pellets off the silhouette target.
 
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Like some, couldn't vote. Yes, I've patterned shotguns. No, it wasn't recently.



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I have patterned a couple "home defense" guns in the past out of curiosity.
I have patterned two for competition.
And two for hunting. One of those recently, to test max distance with 3.5" 00 buck.

Generally speaking, I find my light modieifed chokes pattern the best. FWIW they tend to shoot slugs decent as well, and Light Mod has become my all around go to.


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I have never patterned a shotgun in the traditional formal sense per se, but when familiarizing new officers with duty shotguns, I have them fire buckshot at 7 and 15 yards so they know how the shot spreads at those distances. There are many myths and misunderstandings about how buckshot behaves. Some people believe a single shot will clear an entire room and that no aiming is necessary.

I also point out the holes the wads make and their erratic flight that could pose a danger to hostages or bystanders.




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Yup, I switched to a mossberg 12ga for home defense since we moved into a neighborhood. I used to use a AR15 but I don’t want a bullet to go thru an intruder and maybe hit a neighbor...

I went with #4 Buck after patterning at house distance (10-12 yards) I have slugs for longer than social distances....

I like the high likelihood that one round of buckshot will end said fight.

Also patterned 00buck, but was getting one flyer with all the ammo I tried. (12 pellet)

I didn’t get any Federal reduced Recoil OOBUCK like we used when I was a cop. No one local had it in stock.

ETA: 12ga Mossberg Maverick 18 1/2” cylinder barrel

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I bought a CZ 712 Utility and patterned it at various distances with Federal Tactical Reduced Recoil OOB.
0ut to 20 yards, no pattern larger than about 4 inches.
22 inch barrel on the 712.


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Yup, I switched to a mossberg 12ga for home defense since we moved into a neighborhood. I used to use a AR15 but I don’t want a bullet to go thru an intruder and maybe hit a neighbor...

I went with #4 Buck after patterning at house distance (10-12 yards) I have slugs for longer than social distances....

I like the high likelihood that one round of buckshot will end said fight.

Also patterned 00buck, but was getting one flyer with all the ammo I tried. (12 pellet)

I didn’t get any Federal reduced Recoil OOBUCK like we used when I was a cop. No one local had it in stock.

ETA: 12ga Mossberg Maverick 18 1/2” cylinder barrel


#4 Buck my favorite. I have double aught but in 2 3/4 shells as have read 3 inch yields uneven patterning. Got some federal reduced recoil OO buck loads from ammo to go several years ago. They used to have speciality 12 gauge not sure about now.


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I voted 'Yes', but it hasn't been recently.

It's the same load that I patterned, so I doubt much has changed since it's been in my M4.




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Just a few rounds from last week, 10-15 yrds, 870 18.5 IC. Federal LE 133 00 flight control. Group measures 4+ inches.
This was with my raptor grip on my 870 and I must say it was stouter than I expected or I'm getting too old for this kid stuff. Almost too tight for home defense unless you have a large home.


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It's been several years and I don't have the targets anymore, but Federal LE 13200 gave patterns maybe 3" across where normal 00 buck was covering the entire torso of an IPSC target. Distance was about 15 yards IIRC, out of my 18" cylinder bore 870. The similar 20ga load (3 or 4 buck) did about the same more recently from my Shockwave.
 
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It's been several years and I don't have the targets anymore, but Federal LE 13200 gave patterns maybe 3" across where normal 00 buck was covering the entire torso of an IPSC target. Distance was about 15 yards IIRC, out of my 18" cylinder bore 870. The similar 20ga load (3 or 4 buck) did about the same more recently from my Shockwave.


I got identical results but I used Federal flight control. I decided to use slugs instead.


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One more "yes" but not recently.
 
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I put a cardboard box with a paper target with paster circle at about 15 yards. From the bench or braced on the vehicle - fire 1 round of the ammo being tested.

Repeat for each round you wish to test. I write on the target which round was used.

Then I go buy case lots of what works.

Same for slugs, but 25 yards - and you can use a single target for multiple rounds by just identifying each POI with a Sharpie.

I don't consider a shotgun to be effective at distances beyond 25 yards with liability attached to each pellet. Under 25 yards, there is nothing better. Beyond 25 yards - it's rifle time.
 
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Just a few rounds from last week, 10-15 yrds, 870 18.5 IC. Federal LE 133 00 flight control. Group measures 4+ inches.
This was with my raptor grip on my 870 and I must say it was stouter than I expected or I'm getting too old for this kid stuff. Almost too tight for home defense unless you have a large home.


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I've gotten similar results with the Fed Flitecontrol 00, I have the following:
7yds- 1 hole
15yds- 1 slightly larger hole
25yds- 8" spread
35yds- 12" spread
40yds- 16"-20" spread
 
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