I took two of my boys shooting this past weekend for the first time. Their Grandpa and I helped them shoot a 10/22 and an AR with .22lr BCG. They're ages 5 1/2 and almost 4. They both did very well, listened to instructions and were safe. The 4 year old seemed a bit little still but had fun.
Both the rifles were too big for them. I'd like to pick up something with a shorter length of pull and a smaller grip. The cricket of course was my first thought but wanted to check with the braintrust to see if any of you had a better suggestion. Was also thinking about a Ruger American Rimfire but I'm not sure if it can be shortened enough or not.
I made a mistake by buying a little single shot Savage. My boy outgrew it too fast to really get any use out of it.
I'd get a 10/22 compact and a couple of Red Ryder bb guns. The 10/22 compact length of pull is only 1" longer than a Crickett.
When they start to outgrow the 10/22 you can swap in a different stock insert and they can keep it for life.
I dropped some coin on a cz 452 scout.
Its now called the 457 scout.
great little rifle if you're going to shoot it some....my 12 year old still likes his.
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Check out some of the ar15-22 variants. With a collapsing stock they can have a very short lop. I have had some little kids shoot my 9mm ar with the stock at minimum and they love it. They like the cool factor too.
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S&W M&P 15-22. Very lightweight, and the collapsible AR stock can be adjusted down small enough for younger shooters, but they won't outgrow it like a Cricket or other Youth Model rifle.
I bought my son a Cricket and don’t regret it. He’s had it for over four years and can still shoot it even though it’s a bit small and he prefers his Henry Golden Boy or S&W M&P .22 now. My only complaint with the gun is that the internal lock position sucks and is activated by just setting the rifle on it. If you buy one make sure you keep the keys for the lock with the rifle and always take them to the range.
When I bought it he could shoulder the AR but it wasn’t comfortable for him to hold for an entire range session. He played as a starting offensive and defensive linemen in tackle football so he wasn’t small or weak for his age.
So he outgrew it now but I think four years of use for the 150 or so bucks I paid is a pretty good deal. Plus he’s not the last kid I plan on knowing. When he has kids it will work for them too.
The 457 Scout in on my list as soon as my Son is a little older. That it comes threaded put it to the top of my list.
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Both my boys started on the 455 Scout. They have been repalced by the 457 which in my opinion is a tad better but Im too invested inthe 455 series to make the switch now.
Shoot me an email if you end up going with the 457' s I may be able to get you a deal on a pair of them.
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For 1st time shooters and children I break out the Remington Nylon 66 (.22LR.)
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My choice would a a .22LR AR variant.
When they're big enough they can graduate to a 5.56 without any more instruction on the controls of handling.
In our family in days past we always gave kids lever-actions and bolt action rifles first- It's so easy for them to blow through a magazine/tube magazine with a semi-auto.
The idea was to work on their shooting habits and safety training first-
Savage Rascal is a great first rifle. It is small, but I find it to be light and simple enough that a kid can learn about safe handling of a firearm. I make it a practice for my oldest to handle all aspects of safe handling, from getting the rifle out of the safe, opening and checking for an empty chamber, maintining muzzle disciplne, putting the rifle in a case for the trip to the range, etc. It has an accutrigger too, and is a fine shooter.
I started my youngest daughter Abby and 5 granddaughters on the same Cricket, then a 10-22 if thier interest lasted ... unfortunately all would rather do hair & nails with Abby and 3 have moved but none have ever really caught the bug.
However I've got a 2 year old grandson that likes to go out with grandpa to shoot dingers & pop balloons with my Marlin 39A so I may have one coming up!
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I was looking at the Henry MiniBolt youth for my daughter. She just turned 5, so it may be a year or two.
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I am starting my 6 yr old on a 22LR Cricket. It will move into the above stock when he outgrows the pink one (Hey, it was free).
My real problem is that he got to put a magazine through an Uzi in full-auto and now thinks that we should have one of those! We are both trying to convince his mother
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I have a 10/22 with the Magpul stock. Remove all the spacers and its great for small kids. Insert spacers as they grow.
You can insert cheek risers for optics too.
Here's my son shooting our 10/22 in the BX22
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it's definitely more than a 'kids plinker' though it can fill that role well
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At first, I was in agreement with everyone- start off with a .22
I like my Ruger 10/22, 10/77's are nice too.
Then JHE888 comes along.
I gotta say, I'm thinking the same as him. Go BIG or go home!
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